05-29-2009, 11:13
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Originally Posted by sleepyhead4
Pretty interesting. More scientific than the other show. And pretty impressive operators. Thanks for the video.
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That show was most impressive. Incredible how the operators were able to function extremely well under extreme heat and cold.
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05-29-2009, 14:25
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Damn, that is some pretty expensive stuff...
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05-29-2009, 19:00
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I'm waiting for the U.S. Army vs the Klingons episode.
I can't believe I wasted a good 30 seconds of my life on that show....
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05-29-2009, 19:44
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Originally Posted by Utah Bob
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UB,
Did you see that price in USD $154, are they nuts? 
GB TFS 
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05-29-2009, 20:32
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Originally Posted by dr. mabuse
I'm waiting for the U.S. Army vs the Klingons episode.
I can't believe I wasted a good 30 seconds of my life on that show....
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You're not far off.
The next episode is going to be Taliban vs. IRA 
This series was over before it started...
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05-29-2009, 21:51
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thanks for the post. If it works, it works but still, I noticed the SF warrior uses a different grip than the other participants: the correct isoceles grip. IIRC, the grip that the TS teaches as well.
On the 2nd test:
is the adrenaline level measured before and after?
is the learning curve of the test taken into account?
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05-29-2009, 22:51
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Originally Posted by The antihero
I've been watching the show since the first episode and it's entartaining, but the whole premise is just too absurd. A one Vs. one fight simulated a thousend times on a laptop after testing weapons on gel mannequins doesn't really prove anything. It's fun to see the effect of those ancient weapons on the dummies but that's it.
Plus this episode was the lamest so far.
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These "simulations" are non-peer reviewed Excel formulae made up by some statistics guy with no fighting/combat experience. Probably plays a mean Halo 3, though.
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05-30-2009, 02:57
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Originally Posted by perdurabo
These "simulations" are non-peer reviewed Excel formulae made up by some statistics guy with no fighting/combat experience. Probably plays a mean Halo 3, though.
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Amen to that.
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05-30-2009, 05:24
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Real test
The real test has always been Man vs Man in the woods with a couple of weapons of choice.
I'm good with a Highstandard silenced .22 and good knife. Of course I could bear an M-4.
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06-12-2009, 20:51
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finally watched this show tonight, in the SF guys defense, spike tv had everything laid out how it was gonna go exactly, e-tool, wtf? too bad he wasnt a better shot unders nods with an M9, thats all i did when i went to the range...
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06-13-2009, 13:26
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Blanks don't kill people..
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
.... then have teams of Spetsnaz and SF battle each other with say paintball weapons? ......
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Blanks don't kill people.
Different tactics for different weapons.
"Take one for the Team" means two different things when you're talking paintball vs 7.62x39.
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06-13-2009, 16:09
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"Take one for the Team" means two different things when you're talking paintball vs 7.62x39./quote/Pete
That is funny,really funny when you think about it..........
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Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney
SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
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06-14-2009, 07:12
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"Take one for the Team" means two different things when you're talking paintball vs 7.62x39.
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Awesome quote. Adding that one to my list of favorites.
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06-14-2009, 07:22
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Could there be rules?
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
Could there be rules in place where once hit by a paintball the person is "dead?"
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If you're killed with a 7.62x39 you don't get up. If you're "killed" by a paintball you get up after the game is over.
While some skills cross over - doing lots of non-leathal force on force can lead to some bad habits. Cover vs concealment is a glaring one.
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06-14-2009, 07:59
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Oh man! I just saw the Mafia vs. Yakuza episode!! Absolutely hilarious! 
What's next? Rosie O'Donnel vs. Joan of Arc? 
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