02-23-2009, 22:21
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Originally Posted by Conrad Y
Who needs skins. Just put some sticky wax from Norway on there and call it good. 
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Kicker wax is fine for Wisconsin or Kansas. I skied up the Villard Glacier on North Sister, near the top it is about 50 degrees (traverses) on telemark equipment. Near the top, I stomped a platform in the snow, pulled my skins off, and skied down the glacier. Also for pulling a poke (sled) skins are better. I used Colltex (SP?) skins. I preferred them over snake skins.
Bill H, probably knows where that is. Go to Sisters Oregon. Look at N. Sister Mountain, there is a finger that runs to the summit. That's it.
Skins are almost as good a tracked vehicles.
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02-24-2009, 16:48
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Bladesmith to the Quiet Professionals
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Hollis,
I can see all Three Sisters Mountains from the shop when the weather permits.
You were here on a cloudy day.
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02-28-2009, 02:20
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More Skins
There is probably not a single thing I can add to this Skin disscussion that has not been already said, but I need to double my posting output - so here goes.
I first used the skins in 1973 - our little motley crew started up to the top of the Sneibstein (we were in Germany when we started) spent the night in the Sneibstein Haus, right on the German/Austrian border; the following morning we proceded to invade Austria - to the top of that mountain. Used the black seal skins all the way up.
They worked ok - but getting down ws a lot quicker, a lot more fun with the skins in the ruck, but scarier. We did lose Ralph on the way back down (fell over a cliff) - but that just helped him to get down quicker, though he never saw his skis or ploes again. He and his best bud did the one pole one ski trick the rest of the way down.
Mitch
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03-07-2009, 10:50
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I wouldn't mind this thread coming to an end... I am in Surf City NC and DREAMING of skinning and discussing the attributes of one skin or the other just pisses me off...
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07-25-2009, 21:47
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Location: NC
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Skins
I don't know if you are even still reading this, but maybe I can fill in some holes for you. I just left 10th and along with my normal ODA reqirements was also an instructor with our Advanced mountaineering detachment for the USASFC mountaineering course. The old Ascension skins are still hanging around in the supply cahin as are the old Tua and Hauge skis' they were partnered on. Now we have moved on to other models of skis' and currently use Black Diamond Ascension skins to pattern better with these wider skis' that are about 90mm under foot. Currently we were trying to upgrade these skis' to a better AT model made by K2 as the afore-mentioned"newest" model wasn't designed for randonee but for park and pipe and required more tuning and maintence. Hope that helped. As a matter of fact I believe I still have my old Ascension skins.
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07-26-2009, 13:43
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Originally Posted by HOLLiS
Skiing with a ruck on can be like trying to ski with a unruly monkey on ones back.
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Especially if you're carrying this damn thing.
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07-26-2009, 19:04
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I hear ya!!
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Originally Posted by alfromcolorado
I wouldn't mind this thread coming to an end... I am in Surf City NC and DREAMING of skinning and discussing the attributes of one skin or the other just pisses me off... 
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al I can sympathize, I just came from 47 days of pow to NC, not sure when I will suck start a tank but its coming once the reality sets in!!
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07-26-2009, 19:07
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Originally Posted by Utah Bob
Especially if you're carrying this damn thing. 
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Utah...But that thing is great for staying warm!!!
Hollis....I heartily agree ..Tua's were definitely agreat ski for their time, and fun
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07-26-2009, 20:51
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22 aditional lbs.
when I was the only engineer on the old 10 man team on OKI, This was my additional weight. I remember 22 lbs of balast...LOL.
Anybody remember the Japanese Assault skis. We used then in Hokydo in 1970 winter warefare tng they were short and had built in climbers and you could run with them like snowshoes.up hill and ski down.
we did use the old "Death Stars" too. The Jap assaults were very shout and slow down hill (fast enough to kick my ass usually). Blitz
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08-06-2009, 17:42
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Location: Ridgway, CO
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great
Thanks for all the great info, not many places like this. Its great to hear that they are still hanging around, and that The BD skins are being used now.
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08-06-2009, 21:08
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Especially if you're carrying this damn thing. 
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I should have said something sooner, I have a Mountain Smith sled (poke). If makes a world of difference. 100# is now manageable, especially on flat to moderate slopes. We did a ski tour of Crater Lake and I pulled about 100#. On the sleep down slopes I was double poling to go faster. Those with heavy packs where having a hell-of-a- time. I used sleds of mountaineering. Maybe the military will catch on.
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08-16-2009, 10:20
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Location: Bend, Oregon
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Climbing Skins
Ascension climbing skins are now owned by Black Diamond. They are excellent climbing skins and I used them extensively while with the 10th SFG.
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08-18-2009, 20:03
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Originally Posted by Utah Bob
Especially if you're carrying this damn thing. 
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Leave it at home. Commo just gets you in trouble anyway...
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08-19-2009, 08:37
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Originally Posted by HOLLiS
I should have said something sooner, I have a Mountain Smith sled (poke). If makes a world of difference. 100# is now manageable, especially on flat to moderate slopes. We did a ski tour of Crater Lake and I pulled about 100#. On the sleep down slopes I was double poling to go faster. Those with heavy packs where having a hell-of-a- time. I used sleds of mountaineering. Maybe the military will catch on.
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We had Akios back in the 60's. They're handy but you just can't take em everywhere.
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