12-09-2007, 14:03
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I don't know that being in SF changed my life as much as defined it. 
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12-09-2007, 14:28
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The Whale
Nice to see The Whale feeling better and back to posting.
Hope you get back to purring at 100% real soon.
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12-09-2007, 18:46
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The Army has made mentally and physically tougher, and disciplined. I'm glad I did this first instead of college, I wouldn't have the self discipline to do my work.
Being in the course, its given me leadership abilities that I never learned in the regular army. Oddly enough, being in the course, I've been the happiest I've been in a while(even pre-army). I've also become more sociable since joining the army, and even more so since SFAS.
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12-09-2007, 23:16
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I've also become more sociable since joining the army, and even more so since SFAS.
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Maybe the old saying is true," Hard work is its own reward."
I know we've had a fair amount of QP's join the forum since this question was first asked. I for one would be interested in hearing additional comments about the impact of the QP journey.
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12-10-2007, 08:06
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This is true!
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Originally Posted by dennisw
Maybe the old saying is true, "Hard work is its own reward."
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Even in the "civilian" work-place, if you were to apply...
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"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?"
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Stay safe.
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12-10-2007, 08:34
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How has the SOF and the rest of the Army changed me?
Not a bit. I'm still the same person as I was born. My talents are gifts from God and my parents, not because someone cut me a set of orders.
What the SOF and Army has given me, however, was the opportunity to "Be All That I Can Be."
I have had some dark periods in my life, but the SOF and Army were there for me always, without question, and so I learned what "loyalty" really means.
Last edited by warrottjr; 02-07-2008 at 08:39.
Reason: Changed "SF" to "SOF"
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12-10-2007, 13:45
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Originally Posted by dennisw
I've watched my youngest go through the SF pipeline for the last two years, including basic and infantry training, and the transformation is very interesting to say the least. Since he's fairly young, some of the changes can be chalked up to normal maturity, if there is such a thing. However, I have a feeling that most of the changes are related to his training and experience.
For the Quite Professionals and candidates, do you think the SF journey has changed you in any significant manner?
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Originally Posted by warrottjr
How has the SF and the rest of the Army changed me?
Not a bit. I'm still the same person as I was born. My talents are gifts from God and my parents, not because someone cut me a set of orders.
What the SF and Army has given me, however, was the opportunity to "Be All That I Can Be."
I have had some dark periods in my life, but the SF and Army were there for me always, without question, and so I learned what "loyalty" really means.
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warrottjr,
If you read the orginal post (above) the individual asked the question of the "Special Forces" soldiers. Just an FYI.
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12-10-2007, 14:23
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
warrottjr,
If you read the orginal post (above) the individual asked the question of the "Special Forces" soldiers. Just an FYI.
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I was responding to:
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Originally Posted by Scottkimbal
How has being in SF or being in the Army changed you? What were you like before joining? People tell me the process of joining and participating in the organizations change you but no one is in a position to explain beyond that. I tell them life changes you but it does raise an interesting question. Your prespectives on this will be greatly appreciated.
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12-10-2007, 14:36
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When all else fails, read the title of this forum. 
Poorly worded thread title to start with.
TR
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12-11-2007, 06:06
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
warrottjr,
If you read the orginal post (above) the individual asked the question of the "Special Forces" soldiers. Just an FYI.
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I stand corrected.
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12-13-2007, 13:13
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My short, un-philosophical answer to this question is this: It showed me in 1979 that there were other nineteen year old kids who thought, believed, and acted just like me. And what each of us did with that was up to each of us.
Did SF change me? I don't think so. Did it enlighten me like nothing before or since? Oooooh, yeah.
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03-12-2008, 20:46
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Did SF Change me?
No, It formed me. I am what I always was. SF took what had to offer and molded, shaped , formed me into what I became. You learn that there is no problem that can't be solved. If not by yourself then with a team. Impossible situations are not impossible. they're just extreme challenges. challenges that increase the fullness of life. Never ending education of life, people, and events. If you don't posses the raw materials you won't become SF. Blitz
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03-12-2008, 20:47
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No, It formed me. I am what I always was. SF took what had to offer and molded, shaped , formed me into what I became. You learn that there is no problem that can't be solved. If not by yourself then with a team. Impossible situations are not impossible. they're just extreme challenges. challenges that increase the fullness of life. Never ending education of life, people, and events. If you don't posses the raw materials you won't become SF. Blitz
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Well said. 
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06-24-2008, 16:53
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The proudest day of my life is when I earned and received my "Green Beret".....
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
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SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
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SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
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06-24-2008, 20:08
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No, It formed me. I am what I always was. SF took what had to offer and molded, shaped , formed me into what I became. You learn that there is no problem that can't be solved. If not by yourself then with a team. Impossible situations are not impossible. they're just extreme challenges. challenges that increase the fullness of life. Never ending education of life, people, and events. If you don't posses the raw materials you won't become SF. Blitz
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Blitzzz,
Well said.
I've been thinking about this and I finally came to the conclusion that I could not do any better. I wouldn't have made it thru selection and the Q if I wasnt' who I was... and yet I wouldn't be who I am today without SF. Just thinking about this subject make me want to reach for a cigar and a johnny walker green....
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