12-03-2007, 15:14
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apple polisher
...general millyvanilly sounds like his private sector job is "corporate apple polisher."
So is general shallwehavechili saying that in only 14 short years our culture has "evolved" to the point where we can finally accept a dick sucker for who he really is?
Who knew... I fully expected it to take every bit of 17 years.
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12-04-2007, 10:25
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I'd have a lot more respect for the majority of these retired General Officers who suddenly have a blinding flash of the obvious - AFTER they retire - if they had the cajones to say what they feel while still in uniform.
Personally, I think that's part of the problem with SF being over-run by our brothers at Pope and Camp Lejeune. We don't have a guy at the top still in uniform with the nads to say what needs to be said, like we did when COL Yarborough and COL Bank (RIP Sirs) were in uniform.
As far as gays in the military.. it sure would change things in that hide site that you're stuck in for a week.. 
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12-04-2007, 10:54
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As far as gays in the military.. it sure would change things in that hide site that you're stuck in for a week.. |
Yeah, especially if they kept "coming out" 
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12-04-2007, 10:58
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Second Thoughts on Gays in the Military
The hide site might be more interesting with a member of Hillary's "AMAZON PARACHUTE INF BN"!! Henceforth known as "APIB".
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12-04-2007, 12:15
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I dont know how to use the quote function, but QP Guy took the words right out of my mouth 
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12-05-2007, 08:39
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What's really funny is...
I work in a city adjacent to San Francisco on a construction site. Employment is available for gays like you wouldn't believe...
"You don't see them knocking on my door for work!" 
Gays are a minority pushing an agenda that benefits gays...NO ONE ELSE!
Stay safe.
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12-05-2007, 11:57
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Yip
Guy, I couldn't have said it better myself.
We had an issue in the home country a while back, where Gay Pride groups where actively recruiting young men and women.
Some kids a bit lost, got no dad, maybe struggling with his identity a bit, these groups would take them 'under their wing' in Gay youth groups!
What really pisses me off is when they compare their 'battle' with the Black Civil Rights movement in the 60's / 70's.
Where the hell do they get off comparing it that! 
Rant over.
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12-05-2007, 12:04
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Interesting article, looks like the Gay agenda Lobbying machine is revving up for the elections.
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/...157385,00.html
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"A man's reach should exceed his grasp"
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"Malo mori quam foedari"
"Death before Dishonour"
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"Mārohirohi! Kia Kaha!"
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12-05-2007, 13:33
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RE:
Does this mean there will now be an 18Q MOSC - SF Fatboy - to service the ODA during lengthy deployments?
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12-05-2007, 20:06
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To illustrate a point....
Backdoored by a gay chaplain with the HIV.
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http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/1...n_hiv_071204w/
Lawyer: Priest will plead guilty to sex charges
By Andrew Tilghman and Chris Amos - Staff writers
Posted : Wednesday Dec 5, 2007 20:54:49 EST
An HIV-positive Catholic Navy chaplain plans to plead guilty Thursday to charges involving sexual misconduct with an unspecified number of men, according to his attorney, who said the priest has known of his HIV status for more than two years.
The chaplain, Lt. Cmdr. John Thomas Matthew Lee, 42, is facing a general court-martial in Quantico, Va. He had been charged with sodomy, aggravated assault, indecent assault, fraternization and conduct unbecoming a military officer, according to a Marine Corps statement. His attorney, David Sheldon, said Lee will plead guilty to “many” of those charges, but would not say which. Three witnesses will testify Thursday, he said.
Marine officials refused to release Lee’s charge sheet, which typically would give the number of specifications, explain why he is being charged and how much jail time he faces if convicted.
Neither Sheldon nor the Corps offered any details regarding the victims in the case. Sources said the sexual partners in question are all men.
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12-06-2007, 13:15
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I remember when the 7th Group Cdr and CSM were doing an unannounced walk through of our billets and found the Jr Medic on Walt Shumate's Team bending some guy from the Svc Bn over the end of a bunk and putting it to him. When told about it, Walt's response was that at least it was his guy who was doing the porking. We all gave Walt a lot of ribbing for that one for a long time!
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12-06-2007, 15:08
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accommodation
In the restaurant industry, it is all most impossible not to incounter gay employees, of both sexes…the maintenance of such employees is difficult. The drama, the bullshit, and the constant weeding out of the overtly gay in the work place is a delicate manner = lawsuit. That being said, and with generational experience in the business and in the military, there is NO place in the service; particularly in line units, for those individuals. The distraction is unnecessary, and politically (election year) motivated.
Are there good conscientious well mannered proper gay employees? Yes.
Do they work well with others? Yes, to a point; and then you, as the employer, must be accommodating. And that’s were the issues lie. There can be no accommodation in the military. Order is the drill.
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12-08-2007, 11:38
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Quote:
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What really pisses me off is when they compare their 'battle' with the Black Civil Rights movement in the 60's / 70's.
Where the hell do they get off comparing it that!
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I've heard and read the same thing for some time now. I've always countered theory/ rhetoric by simply...
Lining several men up from different "ethnic" backgrounds and have people describe them...
Not one time has "gay" been mentioned in the description..... 
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01-26-2008, 18:22
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I read an article somewhere, I think in the Army Times, about a soldier who admitted to being gay, and provided proof to his CO. From what I remember of this article he stated his CO said he wasn't going to punish him, and then I think he went on leave.
Just wondering if anyone else saw this article, and has heard anything else about it.
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01-26-2008, 18:32
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Quote:
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I read an article somewhere, I think in the Army Times, about a soldier who admitted to being gay, and provided proof to his CO. From what I remember of this article he stated his CO said he wasn't going to punish him, and then I think he went on leave.
Just wondering if anyone else saw this article, and has heard anything else about it.
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Saw it, looked like a one-sided hatchet job by the reporter, and the troop was trying to get out of a deployment.
I am sure that if they really checked, many of the recent claims are troops trying to get out of the service and their oaths in a non-punitive manner.
TR
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