06-05-2007, 19:52
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Too many TTPs revealed.
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 I learnt things I've never known or imagined/guessed before. Bet the enemy did, too.
I can't stop thinking about the AA truck illuminating the back of the humvee before the explosion. Chronological correlation resulting from the footage editing? Pure coincidence?
I guess I'll never know since the discussion surely violates OPSEC
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06-05-2007, 21:09
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Being a civvie, I don't know how much we assume the enemy already knows, so maybe my concern is overblown, but as I was watching them reveal the, shall we say, clever use of communications equipment, I grew a little pissed. 
Did whoever approved this for public broadcast really know what he was doing?
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06-06-2007, 06:49
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Admins, QP's:
For the sake of OPSEC and the chance that an errant poster goes on a wild tangent, can we call this thread done?
Professionally, I would appreciate it.
This is not intended to offend any persons judgement on what to post, most have demonstrated a clear regard for OPSEC and have kept it clean due to their knowledge and experiences, others that "assume" are potentially (or unknowingly) risking future ops.
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06-06-2007, 07:05
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Since we have the ability to remove any posts that step over the line, and those who actually know enough to comment intelligently also know better than to get into details, I think that we are safe leaving it open for now.
I seriously doubt that anyone will post anything that will do as much damage as the show did.
Let this be a warning for anyone who wishes to post on this thread to think about what you would say if it were your ass in the Box.
Good enough?
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06-06-2007, 07:08
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Like Pete said, I winced at times with what they showed and was more than a little pissed at their lack of concern. Good show other than that. I'd like to see NGC donate any proceeds from sales of the video to the families of those killed.
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06-06-2007, 07:37
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I didn't watch the program. The thought crossed my mind but got d/x'd right quick. There was likely more being shown than I needed to see and if "anybody" wanted me to know he'd tell me.
Having said that, I appreciate this thread and the insights you guys have about what the show portrayed.
So, thanks TR for keeping it open and thanks to the men who share their opinions.
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06-06-2007, 07:39
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Like Pete said, I winced at times with what they showed and was more than a little pissed at their lack of concern. Good show other than that. I'd like to see NGC donate any proceeds from sales of the video to the families of those killed.
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Now there's a great idea.
Letter on the way, email sent suggesting exactly that.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/community/email.html
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06-06-2007, 13:25
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I had the pleasure of watching the program with a couple of QP's who happened to be deployed at the same time as the folks in program, but working out of a firebase in the nearby vicinity. Their comments echoed the sentiment expressed by blue02hd. They offered the opinion that there were very few secrets of which either side wasn't aware. "After fighting there for six years, we know how they operate and they know how we operate."
It gives me the impression that most of us back here really have no concept of how we are prosecuting the war in Afghanistan, and maybe this program was a good thing. Perhaps if some of the folks high up on the totem pole came down occasionally, it would give us a chance to do some significant damage to the Taliban.
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06-06-2007, 17:42
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Ithey know how we operate.".
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Then there are a whole bunch of folks not doing their jobs!
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06-06-2007, 17:51
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Since we have the ability to remove any posts that step over the line, and those who actually know enough to comment intelligently also know better than to get into details, I think that we are safe leaving it open for now.
I seriously doubt that anyone will post anything that will do as much damage as the show did.
Let this be a warning for anyone who wishes to post on this thread to think about what you would say if it were your ass in the Box.
Good enough?
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Agreed, Thanks TR
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06-06-2007, 20:27
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It gives me the impression that most of us back here really have no concept of how we are prosecuting the war in Afghanistan...
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I don't know if I'd go quite that far.
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06-06-2007, 23:53
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I enjoyed the show, but did think way to much was shown that could benefit present and future enemys. Never had to work with any press so do not know how I wold have reacted.
I like the idea of procceds of the film be donated to the families.
Just my thoughts.
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06-07-2007, 07:44
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National Geographic Channel: Inside the Green Berets
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In a remote outpost in south-central Afghanistan known as Firebase Cobra, a group of Americans stand in the breach between the rule of law and the rule of terror. They are Green Berets, part of an elite division of the U.S. Army Special Forces, charged with protecting local civilians from the wrath of the Taliban. These elite soldiers navigate an unforgiving landscape, never certain from one minute to the next if they will make it back to the base alive.
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Part 1
Part 2
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EDIT: Hope I've got the right SFG...
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06-07-2007, 08:09
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Do not start new threads when the topic already has a dedicated thread.
You were wrong about the Group as well.
More reading, less posting.
TR
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