05-05-2011, 13:37
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm not following you here. Does this mean that you grew up in a "racist" household? Are Sicilian's racist by nature? Or just your parents?
Or are you saying you were discriminated against because of your ethnicity? Is Hudson County a racist bigoted county that discriminates against Irish-Italians? How were the other ethnicities treated in comparison?
1stindoor,
To a certain extent yes i did grow up in a racist house hold. I grew up with my Grandparents who grew up in North Newark and back then it was just understood the minority is to stay out, that it was a Italian Neighborhood. And that mindset was still present alittle bit when i was raised by them. The "N" word was used alot and they weren't afraid to call a black person that. My friends grandma use to throw Hot water out her apt window when a black person would walk by. Its just the way it was then. At the same time my grandparents raised a young black kid who lived in a shack around the corner way before i was ever born, his mother had died of cancer and he had no family. I have been jumped and beaten up simply because im white. Ive been hit in the head with a pipe and stabbed once. So I know alittle bit about race and the tension thats there.
Secondly, my family growing up was into alot of politics my uncle was a republican councilmen for my town so I knew the Mayor and pretty much ever other town politician and Id hear what they'd have to say regarding the minority at parties i went to and extra.
A matter of fact the township school psychologist who I know very very well Ive heard her make racial statements about Obama because he's Black. Just a few examples..
I have no problem listening and sharing knowledge. I am honestly not one of those bleeding heart liberals who just wants to hear the sound of my own voice.I take the information i research and look into seriously. Im not a Trolling advocate for the Liberal Ideology, Im not uninformed, Im not always right either. I am definitely willing to listen and learn from all of you..
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05-05-2011, 13:40
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05-05-2011, 13:49
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Originally Posted by john88
I am definitely willing to listen and learn from all of you..
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You're in college........really?
Proof read and use spell check, PLEASE.
Reading your post's hurts my brain.
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05-05-2011, 13:59
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Originally Posted by Todd 1
Your in college........really?
Proof read and use spell check, PLEASE.
Reading your post's hurts my brain. 
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john88 told me he is going to do as advised so go easy on him.
Back to the regular programming please.
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05-05-2011, 13:59
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Originally Posted by Todd 1
Your in college........really?
Proof read and use spell check, PLEASE.
Reading your post's hurts my brain. 
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Same to you. *You're**
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05-05-2011, 14:00
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Originally Posted by Todd 1
Your (in this case it would be you're)in college........really?
Proof read and use spell check, PLEASE.
Reading your post's hurts my brain. 
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This seems to be the day for everyone to heed that advice (myself included).
And with that...I'll bow out for the day.
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05-05-2011, 14:03
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Originally Posted by john88
Pat Dollard is conservative so I'm not to surprised at that article, just more conservative propaganda to undermine the President because they can't stand a Black Man in the oval office. Thats what the nonsense birther issue is all about, its a white conservative coward way of calling him the "N" word..
However, Im gonna dismissing the article i just havent heard this mentioned in main stream media. I have heard this spread throughout conservative Internet and radio sources.
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Dude, you're lookin' at many soldiers that have served under very many different presidents, parties, secretaries of state (of different color now that you brought it up) and what have you.
I can't believe you question that we don't like him because of his color...that YOU brought out ...(hhmmm a "certain card") played???
It is insulting.
What credentials, and what qualifications....hmmm, lets, see, just what it would take to be one of "us" aka running America, does he have.
I would certainly NOT let someone with good speech writing abilities (or someone else's) come in to run my team...
In places thev've never even heard of...
That's how I feel, can't speak for anyone else....
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05-05-2011, 14:03
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Originally Posted by incarcerated
Back to the thread…
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,4551952.story
Clinton: Situation Room expression may have been allergies, not anxiety
By Michael A. Memoli
Washington Bureau
May 5, 2011, 9:57 a.m.
Reporting from Washington — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that she can't be sure what she was watching in the now-iconic Situation Room photograph showing President Obama and his top security advisors during the mission that killed Osama bin Laden. But she suspects her dramatic pose may have more to do with Washington's notorious pollen count than any emotional reaction to the operation unfolding before her....
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Allergies my ass. That's a picture-perfect display of horror at a gross death.
These people are incapable of telling the truth.
With all the examples we're given-every day-of the duplicity of liberal Democrats, it astounds me that anyone could be stupid enough to fall for their bullshit.
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05-05-2011, 14:23
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Originally Posted by JJ2K1
Same to you. *You're**
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05-05-2011, 14:40
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Originally Posted by Dusty
Allergies my ass.
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Most of the people seated in the room look unenthusiastic, uncomfortable, and out of their element. One whose expression differs is the attractive young woman in the back of the room, about whom, no one seems to have much familiarity.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...=hp:mainpromo3
….Who's the woman peeking her head from the back? A White House caption for the photo identifies her as Audrey Tomason with title "Director for Counterterrorism." But in a room full of oft-cited and quoted people, there's fleetingly little published information about who she is or what she does for the administration.
The presence of Tomason is notable for a few reasons. Next to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, she's the only other woman pictured in the testosterone-filled room. And she appears to be the only person under 40. But what matters most is that she is standing just a few feet from the president, who is otherwise surrounded by his closest advisers, as they watch one of the country's highest-stakes operations in decades as it occurs in real time….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml
http://www.tuftsgloballeadership.org...ic-alumni/1997
Audrey Tomason worked as Americorps*VISTA and Associate at ACCION International after Tufts. She is attending the Kennedy School's master's in public policy program and is scheduled to graduate in 2003.
ACCION is a micro-lending group. Sounds similar to what the president’s mother once did for a living.
http://www.accion.org/#
http://www.accion.org/Page.aspx?pid=2274
Assisting Small Businesses in Cuba: Recommendations for Private and Public Sector Leaders.
Earlier this year, the Center for Financial Inclusion in collaboration with the Cuba Study Group and the Americas Society/Council of the Americas hosted the Cuba Small Business Summit in New York. The Summit brought together experts in the fields of microfinance, business education, and economic development to identify ways to support small and microentrepreneurs inside Cuba.
Out of this summit emerged a whitepaper entitled: “Supporting Small Business in Cuba: Recommendations for Private and Public Sector Leaders.” The report outlines specific steps that the Cuban government, the U.S. government and other players can take to support the growth of micro and small businesses in Cuba. It is being released just days before the Communist Party of Cuba celebrates its sixth congress.
Someone, presumably the White House, has put up a Wikipedia bio on her in the last 24 hours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Tomason
....She previously was working in the Alec Station as one of the few analysts who had a deep knowledge of al-Qaida before 9/11. The Station opened in 1996, was an "interdisciplinary" group, drawing on personnel from the CIA, FBI, NSA and elsewhere in the intelligence community. Formally known as the Bin Ladin Issue Station, it was codenamed Alec Station, as referred to by Able Danger liaison Anthony Shaffer.[1]
She is suspected of being the CIA analyst involved with the case of German citizen Khalid El-Masri, who was captured and taken to a secret prison in Afghanistan for interrogation (with implications of torture) in 2003.[2]
She now runs the CIA's Global Jihad unit, the counterterrorism squad dedicated to hunting down al-Qaida worldwide. She regularly briefs Panetta, making her an influential voice in Obama's intelligence circle....
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05-05-2011, 15:58
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
I am growing weary of kids with zero military experience, and apparently very little political knowledge, spouting off on this thread with their uninformed opinions about the operation, the units involved, the numbers of personnel, the types and numbers of aircraft, the tactics, and the supremacy of the POTUS for having allowed it to take place while he watched the action unfold on TV from his office thousands of miles away.
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TR, if you look closely at the photo, POTUS appears to have been doing something else.
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05-05-2011, 16:21
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TR, if you look closely at the photo, POTUS appears to have been doing something else. 
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Damn it RL, you've shattered my perception. I was really trying to believe that he hadn't pulled the trigger and now I see that I'm wrong.
I was also trying to stay out of this thread...
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05-05-2011, 16:25
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TR, if you look closely at the photo, POTUS appears to have been doing something else. 
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He looks like he's just seen a haint.
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05-05-2011, 16:38
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
I am growing weary of kids with zero military experience, and apparently very little political knowledge, spouting off on this thread with their uninformed opinions about the operation, the units involved, the numbers of personnel, the types and numbers of aircraft, the tactics, and the supremacy of the POTUS for having allowed it to take place while he watched the action unfold on TV from his office thousands of miles away.
I have just wasted the better part of thirty minutes of my evening wading through innumerable pissing contests and more than a half dozen pages of posts here which could be condensed to less than a paragraph of real substance. I am truly disappointed.
People who have the right to vote for a POTUS based on "coolness" without the common sense to pour piss out of a boot with directions on the bottom are sorely trying my patience.
Frankly, if you are not a QP here, I don't give a damn what your opinion is, or what you think might or might not have happened. You are a guest. Conduct yourself accordingly or move out and draw fire.
Hint for newbies: Contentious threads like this are probably not a good place to start padding your post count.
I don't care if Osama was shot once, twice, or a hundred times. It doesn't matter to me what type of aircraft were involved. I don't care if Osama was armed, unarmed, asleep, drunk, or on a prayer rug at the time. As long as he is dead, I am happy. None of my brothers were killed while taking out this trash. Doubly happy.
I do think there is a problem with the time line, the locations, the differing versions that seem to be emerging, and the fact that Obama may not have actually made the decision to execute. In fact, he may have put a subordinate on the spot for the decision, and yet seems to be reaping an inordinate amount of the credit for others' actions now.
If you have an informed opinion or a piece of info to offer, fine. More than happy to read it. If you think I might be referring to you, ask yourself if what you want to post really adds anything to this discussion. If not, please go back to wherever you were posting before you came here and post it there.
Just looking for the right one who fails to comprehend the above to make an example of. Easier to eliminate the problem in thirty seconds now than to put up with it for the next few dozen posts, and then have to do the same thing anyway.
Please continue.
TR
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Since people do not seem to be listening, we are going to be taking some action now. I suggest that everyone pay heed.
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05-05-2011, 16:48
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Some of the QPs have been kind enough to say some of your comments are imbissilic. I'm not that nice. You are an idiot. I am tired of liberals such as yourself telling someone like me, ie not liberal, that I am a racist because I take issue with the POTUS' politics. I do not have a racist bone in my body.
My dislike for the man has absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin. It has to do with his lack of experience his lack of moral fortitude and his clear hatred of over half this country that he labels his "enemies".
You are a clueless idiot.
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I agree with afchic.
john88 is an idiot and now a Banned User.
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