Protecting the Second Amendment – Why all Americans Should Be Concerned

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Paslode

On the subject of Liability Insurance for guns, did it cross anyone's mind that it would require firearms to be registered (a dream of the gun grabbers) with the state and/or Feds? And probably as with your auto, you would be in a searchable data base and be required to pay yearly property tax to maintain your registration.


Guaranteed some in the insurance lobby is pushing for this cash cow.

Or lawyers.

TR

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Dozer523

Thank you for taking the time to find videos of trigger locks that don't work. Still, I'm not convinced it is impossible to prevent a weapon from firing. What if we tried to or wanted to develop a locking device that is hard to defeat? We were able to get people to and from the moon using slide rules.
TSBITF. We have a thread on locks and safes. for years QPs have purchased, used, evaluated and critiqued a variety of locks and safes. I trust a QPs opinion more then Better HouseKeeping and Consumer Digest.

The most often cited reason for having a gun is home defense. The reason you have guns in your home is because you don't trust the locks on your doors and windows. Therefore, your locked home is not sufficient to protect your guns from criminals and crazies. Nancy Lanza's wasn't.
I don't get the impression you have ever actually seen a vault if you think bank vaults can be mechanically defeated from the outside. It is not nearly as easy as movies make it look (Oh, Kelly's Heroes. Yeah, that was easy . . but they needed a Tiger Tank. It's pretty hard.)

And no one is asking you to. If you use your gun negligently you are liable. If you fail to take reasonable precautions (an effective locking device) to prevent a criminal or crazy from using it to kill or injure others you are liable. This proposal assumes you can be responsible for yourself. It's your gun. It's your responsibility.

Before you post you ought to read some of the previous posts, or at least read the post you are commenting on. I am discussing guns, not Ginsu knives, or your chainsaw or your lawnmower. That has been addressed.

Lanza's mother's guns were not secured. If she had secured them, she might still be alive. Or maybe her son would have killed her with a Ginsu knife but still not gotten the guns.
Maybe, we would be calling Nancy Lanza a hero.
Or maybe she would have given the guns to her son and he would have let her live. I hope not, I like to think people faced with that choice will be courageous. In any case her gun security was negligent and she would be fully liable. Her guns, her responsibility.

How very liberal of you to place the blame on everyone except the coward that did the killing.

So if I follow your "logic" when some entitlement punk steals your "unsecured" car and takes it for a joyride, killing an entire family while being chased by police, we should blame the car owner instead of the punk that stole the car.

Lanza's mother had nothing to do with him killing little kids, Lanza did that all on his own.

Let that sink in before you post about gun locks again. Your argument stinks.

[Badger52]

Homeowner shoots, kills man during burglary attempt

Burglary suspect's sister says brother was 'good guy'

Well of course she does.
Comments are most enlightening; scroll down for the one where someone dumped this "good guy" rapsheet.

LINK to full story.

[cbtengr]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Homeowner shoots, kills man during burglary attempt



Well of course she does.
Comments are most enlightening; scroll down for the one where someone dumped this "good guy" rapsheet.

LINK to full story.

Not exactly garnering a lot of sympathy in those comments is he?

[Surgicalcric]

Good riddance.

Where are these stories when the Pres is on the campaign trail trying to garner support for more restrictions on our rights.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by Surgicalcric

Good riddance.

Where are these stories when the Pres is on the campaign trail trying to garner support for more restrictions on our rights.

It doesn't fit their agenda!

"Give the people what "WE" want."

[Dozer523]

You have to admit, that I managed to push that rock pretty far up the hill. I managed that by being respectful to the members of this board who I know have deeply held beliefs.

And for those of you who extended me the same courtesy, my thanks.

[Stiletto11]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

It doesn't fit their agenda!

"Give the people what "WE" want."

You mean stuff it down their throat?

[pcfixer]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...lation-treaty/

With the Obama administration supporting the final treaty draft, the General Assembly vote was 154 to 3, with 23 abstentions.

Iran, Syria and North Korea voted against it.

Sounds right!

Critics of the treaty were heartened by the U.S. Senate’s resistance to ratifying the document, assuming President Obama sent it to the chamber for ratification.

In its budget debate late last month, the Senate approved a non-binding amendment opposing the treaty offered by Sen. James M. Inhofe, Oklahoma Republican, with eight Democrats joining all 45 Republicans backing the amendment

[tonyz]

Guns Save Lives

Thomas Sowell
Townhall.com
4/2/2013

"The gun control crusade today is like the Prohibition crusade 100 years ago. It is a shared zealotry that binds the self-righteous know-it-alls in a warm fellowship of those who see themselves as fighting on the side of the angels against the forces of evil. It is a lofty role that they are not about to give up for anything so mundane as facts-- or even the lives of other people."

<snip>

http://townhall.com/columnists/thoma...735/page/full/

[Lan]

From what I've read, I don't think this treaty will have any effect on our rights but just in case.

[Stiletto11]

Originally Posted by Lan

From what I've read, I don't think this treaty will have any effect on our rights but just in case.

You must be joking

[tonyz]

We each have our own journey...an interesting opinion piece. CNN no less.

A mother's journey to bearing arms

CNN iReport
By Tracy Scarpulla, Special to CNN
updated 11:24 AM EDT, Tue April 2, 2013

"Over the 11 years of our marriage, I slowly learned about guns. I began to accept that the gun itself posed no danger -- any danger was in the hand and heart of the beholder. I learned there were safe ways to teach your children about guns. Guns were a tool like any tool; they have multiple purposes and uses. I learned more about our Constitution and our rights as U. S. citizens. I learned I had nothing to fear and a lot to gain from owning a gun."

"I think mothers need to educate themselves and learn how to best educate their kids. I work with a lot of other mothers, and many of them are shocked that I was taught how to shoot. I understand because I was there at one point -- I was scared of guns. But I no longer fear them."

"So Mr. Obama and your gun control advocates: I am not physically capable of stopping a 200-pound man from raping me or my daughters. I am not physically capable of stopping a 200-pound man from entering my home and doing what he may. However, my gun is very capable of stopping such a criminal if such an act were to occur."

"We live in a society where no one is there to protect us. The police come after the crime, not before. I do not have 24/7 armed protection like you do, Mr. President. Neither do my children."

"So until you can explain to this nation why your old city of Chicago has rising murder rates by guns, despite some of the strictest gun control laws in the country, I will continue to support the NRA, I will continue to urge others to support the Second Amendment and I will continue to vote for those politicians that support my views. I will also support the notion of placing armed police, veterans, etc. in our schools."

"Why should your children, Mr. President, be of the select few children in this country who are protected by armed guards? Why are your children more special than mine?"

<snip>

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/02/opinio...html?hpt=hp_c3

[Paslode]

I am all torn up

“They said they were going to kill me,” Maloney said of the threats, according to the New York Daily News. The liberal Democrat, the paper reported, received three calls within about an hour on Tuesday night.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/03/de...tting-threats/

[MR2]

“They said they were going to kill me,” Maloney said of the threats, according to the New York Daily News. The liberal Democrat, the paper reported, received three calls within about an hour on Tuesday night.

Maybe she should get some insurance...