Fort Hood Shooting - Page 21

MTN Medic · 04-24-2011, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Tress

Stick him, jab Him, hang him, shoot him, gas him, eviscerate him, put him in the middle of an impact range, tie him up behind a target at the sniper range, use him in MedLab or its present equivalent, just make sure he dies and quickly. That is , quickly in the sense that let us not give him 20 years on death row. If they want to use the "Death by 1,000 cuts" method, that would be O.K. with me.

After he gets a fair trial of course.

Just how does the Army mete out capital punishment these days?

hopefully by spoon brother.

PedOncoDoc · 04-25-2011, 04:45

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Originally Posted by Pete

Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder."

How do these charges equate with anything less than the pursuit of the death penalty?

Would this be a discussion if a hate-motivated crime was performed by someone from any other group?

craigepo · 04-25-2011, 08:09

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Originally Posted by PedOncoDoc

How do these charges equate with anything less than the pursuit of the death penalty?

Would this be a discussion if a hate-motivated crime was performed by someone from any other group?

Here's what I could find from the UCMJ specifically regarding punishment in murder cases. Looks to be a pretty simple legal standard.

Art. 118. Murder

Any person subject to this chapter who, without justification or excuse, unlawfully kills a human being, when he- (1) has a premeditated design to kill; (2) intends to kill or inflict great bodily harm; (3) is engaged in an act which is inherently dangerous to another and evinces a wanton disregard of human life; or (4) is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of burglary, sodomy, rape, robbery, or aggravated arson;
is guilty of murder, and shall suffer such punishment as a court-martial may direct, except that if found guilty under clause (1) or (4), he shall suffer death or imprisonment for life as a court-martial may direct

**The Reaper** · 04-25-2011, 08:20

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Originally Posted by Tress

Stick him, jab Him, hang him, shoot him, gas him, eviscerate him, put him in the middle of an impact range, tie him up behind a target at the sniper range, use him in MedLab or its present equivalent, just make sure he dies and quickly. That is , quickly in the sense that let us not give him 20 years on death row. If they want to use the "Death by 1,000 cuts" method, that would be O.K. with me.

After he gets a fair trial of course.

Just how does the Army mete out capital punishment these days?

IIRC, it is lethal injection, but we have not executed a soldier since the early '60s, and that was by hanging.

I did see the death chamber in 1989 when it was still equipped with the electric chair. Sturdy, but not particularly comfortable.

Were it my decision, I would select the longest, most painful means of execution possible for Hassan. Flogging to death, perhaps. Or a bad hanging job or a dry skull sponge electrocution. Remains to be fed to the hogs.

TR

Red Flag 1 · 04-25-2011, 08:21

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Originally Posted by Tress

Stick him, jab Him, hang him, shoot him, gas him, eviscerate him, put him in the middle of an impact range, tie him up behind a target at the sniper range, use him in MedLab or its present equivalent, just make sure he dies and quickly. That is , quickly in the sense that let us not give him 20 years on death row. If they want to use the "Death by 1,000 cuts" method, that would be O.K. with me.

After he gets a fair trial of course.

Just how does the Army mete out capital punishment these days?

Eviceration is both under rated, and under used. The same can be said for the drawn and quartered thingie. We could just experiment with the methods of bygone days and evaluate which one is the most cost effective and satisfying.

RF 1

glebo · 04-25-2011, 08:23

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Originally Posted by craigepo

Here's what I could find from the UCMJ specifically regarding punishment in murder cases. Looks to be a pretty simple legal standard.

Art. 118. Murder

Any person subject to this chapter who, without justification or excuse, unlawfully kills a human being, when he- (1) has a premeditated design to kill; (2) intends to kill or inflict great bodily harm; (3) is engaged in an act which is inherently dangerous to another and evinces a wanton disregard of human life; or (4) is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of burglary, sodomy, rape, robbery, or aggravated arson;
is guilty of murder, and shall suffer such punishment as a court-martial may direct, except that if found guilty under clause (1) or (4), he shall suffer death or imprisonment for life as a court-martial may direct

Black and White....we'll see how they "interpret" this one..

To whom it suites...I suppose.

ddoering · 04-25-2011, 08:47

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Originally Posted by Tress

Just how does the Army mete out capital punishment these days?

Via powerpoint.

Dusty · 04-25-2011, 08:57

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Originally Posted by ddoering

Via powerpoint.

Spew.

If that prick doesn't convert to Christianity, he's going to hell. Forever.

Somebody analoged "forever" thusly:

He could pick up one grain of sand at Topsail, crawl on his hands and knees to Barstow, drop off that grain and pick up another, and crawl back to Topsail until he had the entire beaches swapped out 117 trillion times; the first minute of "forever" hasn't even started, yet.

JimP · 04-25-2011, 09:12

The military hasn't executed anyone since '61. It is a Loooooong and painful process to "death-certify" a panel for a capital punishment case. It is much cheaper to keep someone in jail for life than to execute them. We grant them all sorts of appeals; free appellate attorneys; multiple habeus petitions; etc.

There is literally a "band of anti-death penalty gypsies" who go around the country training military defense attorneys in how to litigate these cases. They openly advocate disobeying the judges instructions and doing whatever one can to screw-up the process. The military has become so PC that they bow to these extremists each and every time.

Hassan needs to get convicted and put into Gen-pop. He'll be treated "well" by the cats in lock-up. They like Muj assassins about as much as they like child-molesters.

Richard · 04-25-2011, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Dusty

If that prick doesn't convert to Christianity, he's going to hell. Forever.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...sletter-weekly

And so it goes...

Richard

Tress · 04-25-2011, 10:48

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Originally posted by TR:
Were it my decision, I would select the longest, most painful means of execution possible for Hassan. Flogging to death, perhaps. Or a bad hanging job or a dry skull sponge electrocution. Remains to be fed to the hogs.

Originally posted by Red Flag 1:
Eviceration is both under rated, and under used.

So lets use the creative side of our brains for a moment. Maybe we should meld together the two methods. Inject the POS, Allah seeking, butt wipe with some drug that renders him immobile, yet able to feel pain. We stake him to the ground in a hog sty with maybe 6 or 7 somewhat, but not too hungry hogs (we do not want this show to be over in 3 minutes). The big nasty kind of hogs with lots of sharp teeth and really shitty dispositions. We then slather him with a little blood and hog slop and let the hogs eviscerate him while he and we watch.

Hell, we can build bleachers around the sty and sell tickets. Open a concession stand, sell some food and beer, get a betting pool going on how long he lasts, which hog is the most aggressive, how many times he calls out the Allah, etc. I would pay for that!

Of course all of the proceeds from the gate receipts, concession stand and half of the betting receipts would go to the families of those that he killed and wounded.

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Originally Asked by Tress
Just how does the Army mete out capital punishment these days?

Answered by ddoering:
Via powerpoint.

Commented on by Dusty:
Spew.

I spewed also, but I have this new cover for my keyboard so I do not have to run to Office Depot any more. Though I do often wonder about the long-term effects of tobacco juice on this cover. Just have to figure out how to protect the monitor better.

On a more serious note, I was a little surprised, after having read many a thread in this site, about how extensive the use of Power Point has become within SF.

Thomas

**Pete** · 07-06-2011, 10:23

Fort Hood shooting suspect will face death penalty

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...#ixzz1RLK7pslx

"FORT HOOD, Texas — The Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly Fort Hood rampage will be tried in a military court and face the death penalty, the commanding general for the Texas military post announced Wednesday........"

Dusty · 07-28-2011, 07:56

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/28...ck-on-ft-hood/

At least one U.S. military serviceman has been arrested after raising concerns over another possible attack on Fort Hood, Fox News has learned exclusively.

According to an Army source, one AWOL soldier is in the custody of the Killeen Police Department near Fort Hood. He was not captured on base. According to another source, two other U.S. soldiers were also arrested earlier today after authorities recovered weapons and explosives.

Fox News has obtained the names of the three suspects, but is currently withholding that information.

Sources say the AWOL soldier in custody is from Fort Campbell, Kentucky.

It's unclear if any possible attack was merely aspirational in nature.

On Nov. 5, 2009, Maj. Nidal Hasan, an American Army officer, carried out a shooting attack on the Fort Hood base in Texas that killed 13 people and wounded 30 others.

Hasan, a military psychiatrist, was arraigned on July 20 and is currently standing trial. His civilian lawyer withdrew from the case as it began.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/28...#ixzz1TPN1J3U0

JJ_BPK · 07-28-2011, 08:05

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It's unclear if any possible attack was merely aspirational in nature.

No Shiite Sherlock...

**Pete** · 07-28-2011, 09:57

"...................Abdo went AWOL on July 4. On the eve of his first deployment to Afghanistan -- after only one year in the Army -- Abdo applied for conscientious objector status. It was denied by his superiors at Ft. Campbell but later overturned by the Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Army review board................"

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/28...#ixzz1TPqo0eGi

Read the whole article but the above takes the cake. This ain't an Army of draftees. But the ADSofA said "sure no problem".

Wonder if he was Amish?