01-15-2006, 10:49
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As I said in my post above, my recruiter said that language school can be waived if you are some what fluent in any foreign language, even if it is not specific to the 19th's AOR. He is not a SF recruiter, but is former AD SF. Can anyone tell me if this is correct? I have been working on learning german because my intentions are to go AD after I fulfill my obligation to the WA NG and would like to get in with the 10th Group. If anyone could let me know if the language has to be specific to the 19th Group's AOR I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
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Are you saying you don't care about 19th's mission requirements and that you are hoping to skate on mission requirements while wasting their budget (and WAARNG's) for training until you can blow them off and run off to Germany for babes and beer? Or are you too stuck on "when maybe 6-8 years from now?" that you just don't care about 2 years from now.. when you should be worried about 5 minutes from now, then tomorrow, then next week, then next month?
'Fulfilling your obligation' to the WAARNG (and 19th) would include doing what's right for the mission and unit, not trying to get away with the bare minimum or substituting what you want for what the team needs, compromising capability untill you can drag your ass out of there to whereever you think you might be happy. Do me a favor and leave 1-19th out of your plans, that way you don't screw them, the already 'sensitive' WA budget, and ME before I can make it there.
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01-15-2006, 14:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
As I said in my post above, my recruiter said that language school can be waived if you are some what fluent in any foreign language, even if it is not specific to the 19th's AOR.
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Originally Posted by 18C4V
I can't speak for 2/19th (different AOR) or for the 3 bns in 20th.
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Doubt it will happen with 1/20th. 3 guys were turned down this past week in their attempt to take a language outside our AO. One of which scored a 3+, 3+ in Russian...
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01-15-2006, 17:23
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Phantom and others.....
Unless you're SF, in the SF pipeline (or an SF intel support, cause they go through lots of language training) please refrain from answering questions posed to the Special Forces personnel...
Thank you.
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01-17-2006, 06:23
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Phantom.....as I stated in my post, I plan on FULFILLING by obligation to the 19th group if I get there, no skating, no wasting their money or time. If they won't except German, then I spend a little more time at language school, no skin off my nuts. Now as far as your hostile attitude and many ASSumptions, it sounds like you need to learn to know what you're aiming at before pulling the trigger!
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01-17-2006, 07:56
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This topic isn't going to turn into a pissing contest. It needs to stop now.
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01-17-2006, 08:10
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Originally Posted by Hutch
Phantom.....as I stated in my post, I plan on FULFILLING by obligation to the 19th group if I get there, no skating, no wasting their money or time. If they won't except German, then I spend a little more time at language school, no skin off my nuts. Now as far as your hostile attitude and many ASSumptions, it sounds like you need to learn to know what you're aiming at before pulling the trigger!
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Phantom is not a Special Forces soldier and will not, again, dispense advice on this board in the Special Forces forums.
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01-26-2006, 20:46
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just an additional thought on languages in SE Asia.
1. Mainland SE Asia. Thai is good because it is related to Lao and learning one has a high carryover into the other. Scripts are different and that take some adjustment. But 'most' mainland asian asian languages are tonal. Tonal languages take some getting used to for non- tonal speakers. The interesting thing is that the syntax for all asian languages tonal and non-tonal are almost identical. Thai and Lao script take some getting used to but one you learn them they are unabmiguous for sounds. One character / tone mark can only have one sound unlike english where one character can have multiple sounds.
2. The Malay language group - Bahasa Malay - Tagalog - Indonesian are non tonal and again from people that I know that learned one of the above, moving over to and adapting to another one was pretty fast. Scripts are roman letters which is usually easier than leaning sanscrit or other scripts.
3. Japanese, Korean are again non tonal. Character sets take some adapting to. No personal experience on this one...
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02-15-2006, 15:42
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mind you i learned Chinese, of which was a real pain in my ass! seeing as it hasnt done too well for me in the sandbox, but i thought japanese and korean were tonal....I realize if your a 98G or some such thing, Chinese is useful, but does anyone else have a use for the language??? i realize it may eventually become useful, and i dont regret learning it in the slightest, just wondering if there is anything out there to look forward to with the language.
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