01-09-2006, 13:16
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I'll add my positive review to the rest. Two things that I really liked about the book:
First, from a wide perspective, I found the leaderhip concepts to be very insightful and sound. Distributed leadership (i.e. letting your people make decisions at their level) is something that every organization can benefit from. What's impressed upon the reader is that distributed leadership becomes a necessity for survival once you enter combat.
This brings me to the next thing I liked about this book. Everything is oriented towards the ultimate goal of surviving, and leading, in a combat situation. There are no vague concepts that the reader has to adapt to their situation. This is not Zen and the art of Leadership or any such nonsense. In this book, MSG Howe has laid out an in depth, practical system that covers combat leadership from the individual to the organizational level. It truly is about what the title says it's about: Leadership and Training for the Fight.
Lastly, I'd recommend gettting the hard copy. The ability to highlight key passages, write in the margins, and read it anywhere, is well worth the extra money.
--Aric
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01-11-2006, 16:22
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Just finished this book on the train to work this morning.
Really good. The battle narratives were gripping and the "lessons gleaned" follow ups were well written and to the point. There's 2-3 typos but nothing to get hung up on.
Definitely made me think about a few things in regards to my own professioanl and personal disciplines.
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05-15-2006, 08:23
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I liked it. Very focused on soldiers and LEOs, but I think many of the lessons have broader application.
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05-17-2006, 22:09
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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05-18-2006, 06:35
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Went ahead and ordered it. Figured it would be good reading for newb like me.
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05-18-2006, 21:32
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Don't read it Homer, study it. 
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05-18-2006, 22:41
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Roger..I think thats what I meant but it didn't come out in my writing. 
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05-30-2006, 14:48
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I am studying it again. The more I study it, the more impressed I am. It could be the basis for an excellent TC for SOCOM. Have to take out the donut munche...LEO stuff of course...
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05-30-2006, 14:51
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Originally Posted by rubberneck
I'll have to give this one a whirl. I recently read "Equal or greater force" by Kit Cessna. Kit served with Paul Howe and MSG Howe reccomends his book on his website. I have read it three times and each time I have come away with more than I did the first.
Best of all it costs a whopping $3.95 to electronically download it from his publisher.
http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore...x?bookid=27951 |
Dude, the link don't work no more. Got another? 
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He knows only The Cause.
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05-30-2006, 19:47
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It looks like the book is no longer available via electronic download from the author.
Here's a quick search of some online locations where it's available in a more traditional format
http://www.fetchbook.info/compare.do?search=1420809687
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05-31-2006, 05:57
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Many thanks LL.
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He knows only The Cause.
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05-31-2006, 19:00
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My copy arrived today-- I have a feeling I'll be using this book as a study aid.... for years to come! 
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05-31-2006, 19:03
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And if I can just add one thing: Thank you MSG Howe!
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07-23-2006, 19:10
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Read this book also while on vacation last week.
I have to say I was very impressed with his insight on leadership. I learned alot from reading his book. I know a few other people who could learn from it as well.
He is also on my instructor list now as well.
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07-24-2006, 08:49
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Excellent Resource
I recently read Leadership and Training for the Fight while in Hohenfels playing OPFOR. I personally thought it was very concise, and contained a wealth of excellent information. Upon finishing it, I passed it on to a couple of our PL's whom I think it helped a lot.
Thank you, MSG Howe.
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