11-08-2005, 10:55
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Originally Posted by Huey14
Politics comes and goes.
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Disagree. Politics are omnipresent. Only the symptoms come and go.
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11-08-2005, 10:58
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Yeah, but they still get a vote, just like the vast underclass with their hands out to the government for the public dole their entire lives.
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True, but do the apathetic/lazy even make it to the polls? They have reruns to catch.
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11-08-2005, 11:16
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Originally Posted by stone
True, but do the apathetic/lazy even make it to the polls? They have reruns to catch.
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Like you wouldn't believe.
The Dems bused people from the rest homes, halfway houses, government housing, and assisted care facilities for the mentally handicapped to the last elections here. They handed them cards with candidates to vote for in case they couldn't figure it out for themselves and "helped" them vote, in many cases.
I believe that the election turnout is higher for welfare recipients than it is for middle-class citizens.
TR
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11-08-2005, 11:22
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Like you wouldn't believe.
The Dems bused people from the rest homes, halfway houses, government housing, and assisted care facilities for the mentally handicapped to the last elections here. They handed them cards with candidates to vote for in case they couldn't figure it out for themselves and "helped" them vote, in many cases.
I believe that the election turnout is higher for welfare recipients than it is for middle-class citizens.
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Interesting.
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11-08-2005, 11:25
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Originally Posted by stone
True, but do the apathetic/lazy even make it to the polls? They have reruns to catch.
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Of course they make it to the polls! How do you think they guarantee the continued gov't largess? Better yet - how do you think NOLA and LA got the gov't they deserved in time for Katrina? A lot of those reruns of West Wing (and the eventual reruns of CinC) are designed to program a particular voting block and push issues. McCarthy may have been reprehensible and short sighted in his methods (look where Roman persecution got the Christians) but he did have a valid point. FWIW - Peregrino
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11-08-2005, 11:57
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[QUOTE=Peregrino) McCarthy may have been reprehensible and short sighted in his methods (look where Roman persecution got the Christians) but he did have a valid point. FWIW - Peregrino[/QUOTE]
Which was?
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11-08-2005, 12:06
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I saw the first episode and part of the second. Yes, highly placed conservative leadership are portrayed as a**holes, and only Geena Davis has the true wisdom. However, one unique method they are using is that, since she has come to power ostensibly as the President on the Republican ticket, she is targeting lower level characters to come over to the dark side. In her enlightenment (her primary identity is that of educator), she is leading the poor, misguided and unsophisticated conservatives to the true light of liberalism. It is a blatent advertisement and plea to the right that really, you can work with us (the left) and having us in power will save you from something even worse: the far right.
I hope the network keeps it on a long time, and the producers become very comfortable and even more outspoken in their scripts, and that by watching an open self-portrait of the left every American with an ounce of common sense is awakened to the rancid horror that is liberalism in America today. In other words, I hope they hang themselves.
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11-08-2005, 12:17
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Originally Posted by stone
Interesting.
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Rest homes have one of the hidhest rates of voting for any single set of people. Check out your nearest one. Get to know a couple of the droolers and then go check their voting record. 100%.
* Note* Droolers is a very mean term to use for a person in a rest home but it makes a statement about their condition. Want to bet they voted for Democrats.
*2nd Note* My mom works the afternoon shift in one and confirms that the day shift "assists" everyone with voting. Absentee voting just took most of the work out of it.
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11-08-2005, 12:27
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Originally Posted by Pete
Just finished the Cresent and the Cross. They didn't go into too much detail in just how the Muslims got the Holy Land in the first place. Saladin chopping off the heads of the prisoners after the battle of Hattin was OK but King Richard doing it was terrible. Oh, well. Another Muslim good, Western World bad hit piece.
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A good book I'd recommend on the subject is "Soldiers of the Faith - Crusaders and Moslems at War" by Ronald C Finucane. $12.95 cover price.
The author goes into depth, without boring, regarding all facets of the crusade and crusader life rather than just the battles and kings and things. He doesn't pull any punches either.
Overall the best book I've read on the crusades.
Ok, end hijack.
--Aric
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11-08-2005, 12:29
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Originally Posted by Pete
Rest homes have one of the hidhest rates of voting for any single set of people.
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In my city, many of the polling stations are at rest homes...
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11-08-2005, 12:35
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Originally Posted by stone
Which was?
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There were Communists in prominent public positions who were actively assisting the Soviets under Stalin and Khrushchev.
The Soviets gained a tremendous amount of intel from these parties, much as the Chinese have been doing here today (though more of their agents are assisting them for financial reasons.
McCarthy, for all of his warts, revealed who they were and attempted to draw public attention to their status. For those sins, he was crucified by the Communists, their sympathizers, and the left-leaning media.
I wish someone would have the courage to do the same today.
TR
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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11-08-2005, 12:37
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Originally Posted by stone
Which was?
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Out of curiosity, Stone, do you know which McCarthy he is speaking of? If you do then it should be obvious, related to this thread!
Google McCarthyism.............concentrate on McCarthy's target.......enlightenment should be assured then.
TR.....you type to fast!
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11-08-2005, 14:09
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Ann Coulter in her book Treason, talks about McCarthy and the information that has since been release through the freedom of information act. Under the act, tapes of FBI have been released showing Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were definitely guilty of spying and how McCarthy flush out a fair amount of commies who were in very high positions in the government.
She also shows how main stream media has all but ignored this information that now availble. What a surprise.
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11-08-2005, 14:19
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Originally Posted by stone
True, but do the apathetic/lazy even make it to the polls? They have reruns to catch.
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Winos, drug addicts, and other idle lay-abouts are also lured to the polls with a promise of cigarettes and a fifth of Ol' Two Step. The Democrats were caught doing this in Milwaukee during the 2000 general election.
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11-08-2005, 14:52
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Originally Posted by CoLawman
Out of curiosity, Stone, do you know which McCarthy he is speaking of? If you do then it should be obvious, related to this thread!
Google McCarthyism.............concentrate on McCarthy's target.......enlightenment should be assured then.
TR.....you type to fast!
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CoLawman,
Yes I'm familiar with Joseph McCarthy-- the question was somewhat rhetorical; i.e. I was interested in hearing one of the QP's viewpoints on the subject since this is the only opportunity I have to interact with Special Forces members and am always interested in hearing their political points of view.
I appreciate the input though and would, of course, welcome your point of view on the subject.
Thanks for the curiosity!
Stone
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