03-04-2004, 22:39
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One bit of advice, when it boils down to an almost 50-50 split, and both will do pretty much the same job, go for the comfort and ease of use. If you're already familiar with one and have gained some experience using it than go with it. That’s always worked for me.
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03-04-2004, 22:43
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Quote:
Originally posted by Team Sergeant
One bit of advice, when it boils down to an almost 50-50 split, and both will do pretty much the same job, go for the comfort and ease of use. If you're already familiar with one and have gained some experience using it than go with it. That’s always worked for me.
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Damn good point. Go with what you know, less of a learning curve.
Okay Aimpoint it is.
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03-04-2004, 23:16
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and here's the GG&G cantilever ring mount - it'll set the aimpoint at the right height to co-witness (lower third of the tube).
http://gggaz.com/products/apcantring.php
and here's a riskier but cheaper place to get one (make sure you call to see if they have it in stock before ordering):
http://www.botachtactical.com/gggaimcanmou.html
cheers,
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03-05-2004, 06:21
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Good advice, mm. Except that I would stay away from Botach even then, based on my personal experience ordering from them.
Good luck with your Aimpoint!
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03-05-2004, 06:47
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My preferences are:
EOTECH 552 mounted on a carrying handle.
1. I'm not a big fan of the rail system with a flip up sight.
a) A lot of people forget to flip the rear sight up.
b) The optics are mounted so far back...that you can't flip the rear sight if need be.
c) There is nothing to protect the rear sight from being knocked out of alignment.
d) Watch how much unnecessary shit people mount on the weapon...like it's going to make them a better shooter.
Just my .01 cents
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03-05-2004, 08:09
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Guy,
Have you tried a Cut Carry handle or LMT BUIS?
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03-05-2004, 10:01
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Originally posted by The Reaper
Good advice, mm. Except that I would stay away from Botach even then, based on my personal experience ordering from them.
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yeah, usually i wouldn't recommend botach, but they got a sale on that item right now for $159, which is $53 less than anywhere else - thought it'd might be worth the risk.
my orders with botach in the past have been both hit and miss, but sometimes the sale prices are just cheap enough to give them another shot, as much as i hate to. caveat emptor.
cheers,
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03-05-2004, 10:02
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No I have not. I try to stay away from attachments that screw on...especially if it's a critical item. Like front or rear sights.
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03-05-2004, 10:34
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Guy, I understand completly.
I was sharing a base camp with a couple teams and saw how some had broke their flip up BUIS's in not so hard use. I am now a convert to the Cut Carry handle sight. But will be checking out a LMT real soon. I think the non flip up is the best of both worlds. If you mount your optic far enough forward you can still attach a NVG behind it, but in front of the BUIS.
Im no fan of NVG's on M4s, but a borrowed PVS-14 is better than a ANVIS5 that has you slaved to a flight helmet.
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03-05-2004, 12:45
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I can vouch for the LMT buis as being a quality piece of equiptment. I've never lost zero with the thing and it is far more robust than any other buis I've handled, especially when compared to the flip up sights.
Granted mine has never seen combat conditions but it is essentially a refined cut-carry handle. One thing I like is that the sidewalls that protect the aperatures are straighter and don't give you the trough effect that a normal CH gives.
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03-05-2004, 13:20
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FWIW,
I made the decision to go with the Aimpoint M2 with a GG&G Cantilever mount. (Just in case I ever get rich and invest in a NVG scope)
Total price: A lot of friggin money, but I think I got a good price on it from lightfighter. I look at it this way buy nice or buy twice.
Gentlemen thank you all for your input it really helped.
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03-05-2004, 16:53
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03-05-2004, 17:54
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Guy,
Now thats nice! All the bennies of both a Dual and single tube., able to be worn on both helmets and stand alone. Are those goggles approved for Aviation use?
Biggest problem for my gig is that guys who spend time on the ground are the minority in the big aviation world.
This looks like something that everyone could use.
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03-05-2004, 18:58
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I just recieved an e-mail from Lightfighter stating they are on back order so I may not be getting that setup after all.
I'm going to check with MSTN.
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03-05-2004, 18:59
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TR,
Sir, would you mine posting a pic of your Aimpoint setup?
I might be re-thinking the cantilever setup.
Thank you.
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