03-02-2004, 16:13
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NDD,
Interesting and creative. The mother of invention so to speak.
Thanks for the info. - Skipper
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03-02-2004, 18:22
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03-02-2004, 18:31
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Do you actually stick the tampon in the wound? I was taught to never probe the bullet hole itself or pack dressing into it, but this was a hoispital not a field setting.
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Why did they teach you that?
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03-02-2004, 18:52
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DD...
Cavitation and destruction with significant bleeders may dictate packing material into large ballistic wounds as long as there is something significant fr there to be pressure against.
That is to say, just stuffing dressings into a wound won't do much, but stuffing it between intact skin or muscle belly and bone does great things to help control massive bleeding.
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03-02-2004, 18:55
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But it won't make things worse.
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03-02-2004, 18:56
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But it won't make things worse.
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No kidding...just keep a good count!
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03-02-2004, 23:31
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03-02-2004, 23:38
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No kidding...just keep a good count!
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DD,
Makes some sense. I was mostly wondering what their justification was. I like to get in there and check things out, don't I Reaper? LOL
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03-03-2004, 00:34
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03-03-2004, 07:45
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Sometimes you have to probe...in order to clamp a major vessel to stop the bleeding. 
Especially in a field environment.
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03-03-2004, 08:53
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depends on the size of the track if we pack it...small wounds we just clean the edges if needed and let seal on their own...larger wounds get packed...
as for tamponading a gsw track... we often will pack wounds of all sorts, gunshot wounds included. There is no contraindication that I can think of to packing a bleeding wound.
just an fyi...if you are packing things with tampons for tamponade or other cotton devices be sure to change them if you will be in the field for any length of time...toxic shock is not just seen in women...
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03-03-2004, 09:43
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Quote:
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just an fyi...if you are packing things with tampons for tamponade or other cotton devices be sure to change them if you will be in the field for any length of time...toxic shock is not just seen in women...
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I was wondering if TSS would be an issue.
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03-03-2004, 09:50
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no more so than any other dressing..... its not the tampon that causes it...it can be any dressing soaked in blood where bacteria can thrive....
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03-03-2004, 10:00
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Quote:
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Sometimes you have to probe...in order to clamp a major vessel to stop the bleeding.
Especially in a field environment.
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Nice avatar Doc T.
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03-03-2004, 10:03
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Quote:
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no more so than any other dressing..... its not the tampon that causes it...it can be any dressing soaked in blood where bacteria can thrive....
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That is why I pack Iodoform gauze into bony defects and not simply cotton 2x2 when packing a wound that will be left for 3-5 days at a time.... Good to see you around Doc T. Like the new avatar too. (although I think I may need to modify it a bit.. 15 instead of a 11 blade) LOL
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