Sandy Berger to plead guilty

[Sweetbriar]

Documents he was known to have taken are still missing. If he can't bring them back, then no restoration of his clearance. IMO.

[rubberneck]

Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer

"erstwhile" means "former"; I assume you meant presumptive or something along those lines.

Thank you. If I am going to correct others I might as well accept being corrected.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

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However, a federal law enforcement official said a plea agreement calls for Berger to serve no jail time but to pay a $10,000 fine, surrender his security clearance for three years and cooperate with investigators. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the pending court proceeding. A judge must approve the agreement.

What garbage. We can always hope the judge actually owns a pair when it comes time for his decision.

[lksteve]

Originally Posted by rubberneck

Thank you. If I am going to correct others I might as well accept being corrected.

maybe you are looking for ersatz?

[NousDefionsDoc]

Originally Posted by rubberneck

Thank you. If I am going to correct others I might as well accept being corrected.

I edited your comment by mistake, I was attempting to edit one of mine and was in the wrong post. Sorry.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

I edited your comment by mistake, I was attempting to edit one of mine and was in the wrong post. Sorry.

So you mean, that Medics and Adimins DO make mistakes from time to time.

[Radar Rider]

Aside from the overall BS of the entire situation, I'm especially perturbed (to put it mildly) about the clearance issue. If I or anyone I work with removed classified documents from our work area, we'd be looking at jail time, and no more clearance EVER. Freakin' berger.

[lksteve]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

So you mean, that Medics and Adimins DO make mistakes from time to time.

you tend to run high on the balls-to-brain-weight ratio, don't you?

[rubberneck]

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

I edited your comment by mistake, I was attempting to edit one of mine and was in the wrong post. Sorry.

I am just happy that I have avoided the dreaded avitar. If you hadn't told me I would have never known that you edited my psot.

[NousDefionsDoc]

Originally Posted by lksteve

you tend to run high on the balls-to-brain-weight ratio, don't you?

He already has a new title and sig line. He must want a new avatar for the trifecta.

[lksteve]

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

He already has a new title and sig line. He must want a new avatar for the trifecta.

so this is how medics update GG shots in cyberspace...

[lrd]

Originally Posted by Sweetbriar

Documents he was known to have taken are still missing. If he can't bring them back, then no restoration of his clearance. IMO.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Mar31.html

The terms of Berger's agreement required him to acknowledge to the Justice Department the circumstances of the episode. Rather than misplacing or unintentionally throwing away three of the five copies he took from the archives, as the former national security adviser earlier maintained, he shredded them with a pair of scissors late one evening at the downtown offices of his international consulting business.

The document, written by former National Security Council terrorism expert Richard A. Clarke, was an "after-action review" prepared in early 2000 detailing the administration's actions to thwart terrorist attacks during the millennium celebration. It contained considerable discussion about the administration's awareness of the rising threat of attacks on U.S. soil.

Archives officials have said previously that Berger had copies only, and that no original documents were lost. It remains unclear whether Berger knew that, or why he destroyed three versions of a document but left two other versions intact. Officials have said the five versions were largely similar, but contained slight variations as the after-action report moved around different agencies of the executive branch.

[Radar Rider]

Originally Posted by lksteve

so this is how medics update GG shots in cyberspace...

Yicchh! What does an electronic frozen shot in the buttocks feel like?

[lksteve]

Originally Posted by Radar Rider

Yicchh! What does an electronic frozen shot in the buttocks feel like?

dunno, but you wind up with a weird tag line and signature...

[Team Sergeant]

Even more on slimball sandy berger


FORWARDED BY VETS4BUSH.COM
A statement well said and worth reading.
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From: "DAVID BARTH, CFA"
Subject: Sandy Berger's Slap on Wrist
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:55:30 -0500

Sandy Berger, an advisor to the Kerry campaign as well Clinton's National Security Advisor, has ADMITTED that he stole and destroyed documents from the National Archives that were after-action reports critical of Clinton's handling of the planned attack by bin Laden and Al Queda in 1999. He stole and destroyed these government documents so that they would not be turned over to the September 11 Commission. These documents have shown that the Clinton Administration not only knew of proposed terrorists attacks on the U.S. but hid this information from the public and did nothing to go after the terrorists except leave a note to George Bush that there were terrorists planning to attack the U.S. Like everything else Bill Clinton has done in his life, with the help of a fawning media, he sweeps the real work of governing under the rug like a P.R. flack and leaves the heavy lifting to the next guy. Fortunately, this next guy disregards the media suck-ups and does the job with li! ttle appreciation from these same suck-ups.

Why does Berger only get probation for stealing and destroying sensitive government documents for purely political purposes? And why hasn't the media exposed this egregious disregard by the Clinton Administration for the public's safety and tell the story? Where is the media outrage such as undoubtedly would have been leveled against George Bush. Do they, the media, wonder why they have the credibility of used car salesmen - I apologize to used car salesman to put them in the same low-class. I respect factual criticism, especially constructive criticism, of all and, especially anyone who purposely and strenuously becomes a public figure. But I have no respect for journalists and their management who, through a plethora of devious means, censor the news for their own, profitable agenda. Ironically, it is these elitist journalist who scream the First Amendment who want to silence bloggers because they may have an agenda.

Please, somebody, give this story the unbiased, factual attention it deserves. I saw a small reference to this in our local (Palm Beach) press and no editorial comment. Yes, it will hurt Hillary's aspirations to the throne but that is her problem, one she deservedly should have.

David Barth, CFA
Jupiter, Florida