Gun sales hit record 16M

[Box]

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

Based on the news....if they did include face to face sales, IL would still come in first...just from Chicago alone.

Most of the face to face transactions involving guns in Chicago would be processed as armed robbery in other states - unless the merchandise is worth less than a thousand dollars.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

Based on the news....if they did include face to face sales, IL would still come in first...just from Chicago alone.

But but, those are “Ghost Guns” built from 80% receivers through a time honored tradition of individual initiative, skill and independence.

Or, just stolen guns (with the serial numbers ground off) sold or bartered through the black market and traded for drugs, sex, money and other material items.

[EricV]

I guess Box is right regarding common sense gun control measures. Course, depending on your political persuasion what is common sense. "Enough is enough" seems to be "Common sense" for a lot of places.

Nearly Half of U.S. Counties Are Now Second Amendment Sanctuaries
by Matt PalumboPosted: May 10, 2021

Thousands of counties nationwide saw so-called “sanctuary cities” springing up to defy federal immigration law, and asked themselves why they wouldn’t to the same to fight gun control.

In just 2020 alone over 400 local governments, mostly counties, adopted resolutions declaring themselves to be “Second Amendment sanctuaries” in defiance of future gun control legislation. Many resolutions are symbolic, while others specify that no government resources will be used to enforce additional gun laws.

More at:

https://bongino.com/nearly-half-of-u...t-sanctuaries/

[Box]

As long as those counties aren't plagued by cops like the ones in Plano Texas, defending armed ANTIFA protestors everything should be juuuust fine. The truth is, it is my sad belief that a lot of these "2d Amendment Sanctuary Cities" are nothing more than conservative virtue signalers trying to hold on to their power. Lest ye forget, there were more than just a "few" republicans that voted in favor of the 1994 assault weapons ban...

Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Brown (R-CO), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Coats (R-IN), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Cohen (R-ME), Yea
Coverdell (R-GA), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
D'Amato (R-NY), Yea
Danforth (R-MO), Yea
Dole (R-KS), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Faircloth (R-NC), Yea
Gorton (R-WA), Yea
Gramm (R-TX), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Helms (R-NC), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Jeffords (R-VT), Yea
Kassebaum (R-KS), Yea
Kempthorne (R-ID), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Mack (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Nickles (R-OK), Yea
Packwood (R-OR), Yea
Pressler (R-SD), Yea
Roth (R-DE), Yea
Simpson (R-WY), Yea
Smith (R-NH), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
Wallop (R-WY), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea


Some of you will notice that a few of those senators that voted for the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban are still...
STILL
...still serving in the US senate - 26 Years later
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea


"Oh but "MY" guy is a good solid conservative" you might say...
You mean good solid conservatives like Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms?
...replaced by dependable conservatives like Tom Tillis and Richard Burr
Maybe Orin Hatch was your guy (the guy that Mitt Romney replaced)
Maybe you feel better knowing that William Cohen was replaced by Susan Collins
Perhaps instead of Arlen Specter voting against your 2d Amendment rights you can count on the likes of Pat Toomey.
At least if you live in Arizona you wont be disappointed. Kyrsten Sinema and Mark Kelly will support your gun rights as zealously as John McCain did back in 1994.

Dont be lazy and think that increased gun sales and politicians with an "R" next to their name will be enough to protect the constitution. Write to your elected representatives and remind them that you area ware of what is going on in politics and that you share your awareness with other voters.
If the last 18 months has shown anything - it is that politicians only listen to the loudest asshole in the room. They need to hear your voice. Just declaring "sanctuary" means nothing because just like everything else they do - it's all about the optics.

Then of course there is that "right leaning" supreme court that we need to worry about. If the court votes left again when they take on this years big gun control case, you can pretty much start saying your good byes to defensive carry. Every democrat in the nation will use that ruling to bludgeon your self defense carry rights completely out of existence.


just sayin'

[Badger52]

It's my recollection that many of the counties took the sanctuary step they did before Dr. Fauci's New & Improved Windfall hit Landfall. Can't speak for all but there was some serious debate in our county over it. This was 2 years ago. Much of that discussion related to resolving that "if the Sheriff and DA are willing to stand between us kulaks and the State or Fed, will we stand behind them (in a physical sense, not the voting sense)? The answer was yes. And this was not something spawned by the coup of 3/4 November, or the murder of rule of law on 11 December.

I wonder how recent are some of these sanctuaries.

[The Reaper]

Brother Box, the 94 AWB Senator Murkowski is not the same Senator Murkowski as the current one, though the apple never falls far from the tree.

Does anyone else believe that in order to break these political dynasties, immediate family members should be banned from national office?

The days of serving a term or two before returning to private life were better for the country, IMHO.

TR

[Box]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Brother Box, the 94 AWB Senator Murkowski is not the same Senator Murkowski as the current one, though the apple never falls far from the tree.

Does anyone else believe that in order to break these political dynasties, immediate family members should be banned from national office?

The days of serving a term or two before returning to private life were better for the country, IMHO.

TR

Damn - I didn't do enough homework - I didnt realize that Papa turned over the family business.
It's neat - a guy barely making 65 grand a year cant leave the military and take a job making 50 grand a year working for the military without raising eyeballs because - much corruption - but the family political dynasties that seem to amass countless millions of wealth just seem to be handed down through the family

Nevertheless, snarky pricks like myself are somehow supposed to blindly trust that these generational hucksters have my best interests in mind when they cash their fundraising checks.
I don't have a lot of faith in our long-term prospects.


I will do bette research next time - thanks for bringing that to light.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Brother Box, the 94 AWB Senator Murkowski is not the same Senator Murkowski as the current one, though the apple never falls far from the tree.

Does anyone else believe that in order to break these political dynasties, immediate family members should be banned from national office?

TR

Frank Murkowski lost his reelection run for governor in 2006 to Sarah Palin. Lisa Murkowski could very well lose her Senate seat to Sarah Palin in 2022, thus bringing this family dynasty to a tidy and ironic end. (Sarah has made noises about running against the RINO, but there's been nothing confirmed.)

There have been too many Murkowskis for far too long in this circus.

S.

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Brother Box, the 94 AWB Senator Murkowski is not the same Senator Murkowski as the current one, though the apple never falls far from the tree.

Does anyone else believe that in order to break these political dynasties, immediate family members should be banned from national office?

The days of serving a term or two before returning to private life were better for the country, IMHO.

TR

The Founders would be horrified at the establishment of a political elitist aristocracy.

Incumbency is over 90% in the Congress and family hand-me-downs are becoming more common as others have referred.

There is nothing I dread so much as the division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our constitution.


John Adams (1854). “The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States: With a Life of the Author, Notes and Illustrations”, p.511

[Box]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

The Founders would be horrified at the establishment of a political elitist aristocracy.

Incumbency is over 90% in the Congress and family hand-me-downs are becoming more common as others have referred.

I believe the founding fathers would be quite perplexed at what is going on these days. We've gone way outside of throwing tea over board and fighting over how much whiskey tax we are willing to pay. It is terribly unfortunate that "politics" has become a family business.

Interesting that John Adams would drop such a quote about the evils of politics only to have his son become president a few years later.
...elite class and all that jazz.

Men like Crispus Attucks would be well beyond horrified if they saw what the fruits of their sacrifice have produced.

[JimP]

Originally Posted by Box

Men like Crispus Attucks would be well beyond horrified if they saw what the fruits of their sacrifice have produced.

Sadly, most modern American humps don't know who Crispus Attucks is without using the google-box.

[Box]

I can't bash people for poor google skills right now - I had to be told that there were two Senators Murkowski because my google-fu was lacking.
...but in this case, many of the Americans you are referring to are comfortable just throwing the systemic racism card at everything - which is a shame

I am positive of one thing - Mr Attucks was a huge fan of protecting the uninfringed right of the people to keep and bear arms. I am also positive that he would have understood that said right had nothing to do with duck hunting.

[RCummings]

I had heard the story of Crispus Attucks and needed to refresh my memory. One of the many benefits to reading the words on PS.com. As I was reading I recalled the weapons used during that period. I wondered what weapon was used and possibly who fired the "shot" that killed Mr. Attucks. I found a trial held for the man who was found guilty and a description of the weapon, very interesting reading. The man was, William Warren and the firearm used was by description a double barrel handgun. I am going to post a link to the trial, interesting reading.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/project...ndictment.html

I have fired a double barrel percussion handgun in .44 caliber rifled barrel and the trajectory spins the balls outward from the muzzle so that when viewed at the target there is a large separation between impact points. To keep the separation from completely missing the target I had to be within 10 to 20 feet.

V/R
American Hump

[EricV]

I know who Attucks was with out looking. I think remembering Samuel Whittemore is pertinent since so many of us here are FOG's.

Capt. Samuel Whittemore, a seventy-eight year old American farmer, became a legend on April 19, 1775 when he was shot in the face by British soldiers, bayoneted at least six times, and clubbed in the head with the butts of their muskets. Armed with a musket and horse pistol, Whittemore had crouched behind a wall near his home as the British retreated to Boston through Menotomy.[1] As a flank-guard approached, he shot two soldiers dead and possibly killed one more. Inevitably, the soldiers discovered the old farmer and inflicted their wrath upon him, leaving him for dead.

Certainly we all would have nodded our heads in sympathy and forgiven Whittemore had he simply succumbed to his terrible injuries. However, in an epic demonstration of New England stubbornness, Whittemore refused to die. Instead, a doctor patched him up and he lived another eighteen years—though perhaps not in much comfort as the British musket ball had torn away part of his face.[2] He died in 1793 at age ninety-six.

https://allthingsliberty.com/2017/06...el-whittemore/

[sg1987]

Couldn’t help but wonder if Capt. Whittemore looked something like this…..