Pelosi doesn't want 'white supremacist' rally in San Francisco

[ddoering]

Perhaps counter demonstrations should be better managed to avoid conflict.

[ddoering]

Originally Posted by Box

all of these statues that serve simply to raise a torch in support of some blind and subjective ideology should be torn down...
...they are just statues from Americas evil past and they should be erased from history

Patriotism is racism!

While we are at it let'd erase FDR for being the only president to put American citizens in concentration camps.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by the squid

But when protestors show up wearing helmets and tactical gloves I am naturally cynical when they purport to have "peaceful intentions."

With all due respect, when the commie-tool counter-protest-minions have been found to be getting instruction on using aerosol flame throwers, the use of muriatic & hydrochloric acid, caustic over-the-counter chemicals, and carry bludgeons (all of which meet deadly-weapon criteria), showing up in your "business casual" outfit is just stupid. Nearly any modern police officer would be found unindictable if faced with one of those threats & simply shot the SOB dead.

They decided instead to exercise their right; they should've been protected by the government in doing so, and were not. They were then made out, by the same colluding crew - and I include the state government & nearly all media, pandering only to "pwecious feewings" - to be the villain.

Horsehockey.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by ddoering

While we are at it let'd erase FDR for being the only president to put American citizens in concentration camps.

I'll see your FDR & raise you a Lincoln, for declaring martial law so as to allow his Army to round up his party's political opponents.

[Paslode]

I do not believe it is all that complicated. You have several groups of bad players stirring up shit, one happens to be Caucasian oriented, you have a media (the Ministry of Truth) that glorifies some groups demonizes others to fit a pre-determined narrative and you have groups of politicians and business leaders who are busy playing red vs blue for their personal profit.

Originally Posted by the squid

Yeah, the 1st Amendment is sacrosanct. But the SCOTUS has ruled that speech that can be construed to incite imminent lawlessness is not protected.

ANTIFA, BLM and OWS prove that imminent lawlessness is a protected 1st Amendment Right........for some


Had Terry McCulife and the Mayor allowed for better crowd control we would have no KIA's in Charlottesville........had they put statue removal up for a public vote instead of government edict it may have had a better reception and saved 3 lives.

[the squid]

Originally Posted by Badger52

They decided instead to exercise their right; they should've been protected by the government in doing so, and were not. They were then made out, by the same colluding crew - and I include the state government & nearly all media, pandering only to "pwecious feewings" - to be the villain.

Horsehockey.

Yes, I suppose it is unfortunate they were not given the space they needed to screech about Jewish conspiracies and other things that have historically kept the white man down.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by the squid

Yes, I suppose it is unfortunate they were not given the space they needed to screech about Jewish conspiracies and other things that have historically kept the white man down.

You shouldn't drink the Kool-Aid. Your example is absolutely no different than screeching about killing white babies - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y3Cd9gnvlw


You may like Chris Rock and his jokes about white people - https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ple+chris+rock

How about Al Joulson in Black Face?
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...on+black+face+

How about Youtube videos about killing white people?
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...g+white+people


How about youtube videos endorsing 'kiling black people'........you won't find many they are CENSORED

Songs about killing white people -

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...g+white+people

How Johnny Rebel and David Allen Coe songs........



Like them or not, it is all protected under the First Amendment.

[TJ11B]

The thing that gets me is that all of these people who are standing on their "moral highground", proclaiming that every Confederate flag/memorial is offensive and should be taken down are the same people who wave the ole' sickle & hammer freely or wear their che scumbag guevera shirts.
Have these idiots no grasp of the history of communism? How many millions of people were enslaved/killed under this ideology?
What about the fact that anybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi? Do they need a lesson on the what fascism actually is? The Nazi's murdered millions of people in the name of their ideology.
This is the strategy of these weak minded personalities that are part of the so-called post Modern neo-marxist movement. If you don't agree with them, you are a nazi, and must be silenced, you have no 1st amendment protection under the law. THIS is a problem.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by the squid

Yes, I suppose it is unfortunate they were not given the space they needed to screech about Jewish conspiracies and other things that have historically kept the white man down.

I believe you're completely missing the point. (Also it seems you're focusing on the message of some who were a tiny minority there, which always seems to be the voice that gets repeated in the media, with all the perjorative buzzwords that go with it.) Who's to be the censor - you? The governor? George Soros?

It is not about the "what" - it's about being free to say it.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Southern Poverty Law Center released a list of 600 hate groups through CNN

Here are all the active hate groups where you live - CNN
https://apple.news/AERgIvhV1Rx-SsJ3nsIgJEQ

No BLM, no Antifa, no Black Block or whatever they call themselves.

If you are white, Christian, or Aryan you are screwed unless...
you belong to an OMG like the Hells Angels, Bandidos, Mongols, Warlocks, etc... (Apparently they don't hate anyone or hate everyone equally)

At least the Black Panthers old and new hate someone.

ETA: Doctrinally speaking and the way these people/groups are going about it. Anyone who opposes the confederacy or symbols thereof, are terrorists. Their tactics and message is that if these symbols, institutions and the names of people who are remembered for actions in the Civil War on the Confederate side (for now) are not dismantled, removed and renamed...expect violence, property destruction and injury to come to your city and community. Pretty much the definition of 'terrorism' if you ask me. And as others have said they will not be done with the confederacy, next up will be the Constitution, and all the parts of the BOR they don't like.

[bblhead672]

Originally Posted by the squid

Yes, I suppose it is unfortunate they were not given the space they needed to screech about Jewish conspiracies and other things that have historically kept the white man down.

It is unfortunate that a group is not allowed their freedom of speech regardless of how egregious other groups feel about what they are saying.

I don't have to like or agree with what they are saying, but I do have to allow their voices to be heard.

Not allowing what the KKK and white supremacist groups have to say makes me no different than antifa, BLM and other communist sympathizers who do not allow conservatives or libertarians to speak freely.

It is also unfortunate that the governor of Virginia and the mayor/asst mayor of Charlottesville ignored a judge's order and used law enforcement as their tool of oppression against Americans whom they disagree with and seek to silence.