The Scary Ghost of Ayn Rand

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by JimP

Funny, I am currently re-reading THE FOUNTAINHEAD. Each year, I re-read both the FountainHead and Atlas Shrugged. Should be required reading for everyone in high school.

Anyone who bleats out an angry screed as above clearly has no concept of what Rand was talking about. She saw the evil in collectivist thought back in the 20's and 30's. The Fountain Head was her first attempt at her "anthem"....she perfected it with ATLAS SHRUGGED. If you haven't read either, get on it: NOW!!!

Where is John Galt? Funny how true this cautionary tale is...... libs just do not understand talent, aptitude, initiative and intelligence as being valuable to a strong society. The Milton Friedman Free to Choose series was along the same lines when he discusses talent and value. It is hard to capture Ayn Rands philosophy in a movie but has anyone seen the movie??

[sfshooter]

I have somehow made it thus far in life without reading any of these works by Ayn Rand. I have vaguely heard of Atlas Shrugged but didn't know anything about it.

I see I am now going to have to purchase some reading material to go through over the Holidays.

Thanks for bringing this up for sure!

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by sfshooter

I have somehow made it thus far in life without reading any of these works by Ayn Rand. I have vaguely heard of Atlas Shrugged but didn't know anything about it.

I see I am now going to have to purchase some reading material to go through over the Holidays.

Thanks for bringing this up for sure!

Before you start with "Fountainhead" or "Atlas Shrugged", I suggest you read "Anthem" as a very good primer. JMHO

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by JimP

Should be required reading for everyone in high school.

#1 grand-daughter HS senior has this now, on the heels of "Message to Garcia." She is literally a danger to the emotional stability of many of her peer group if they (unwisely) choose to engage her in a rant fest. 1 citizen at a time.

Back in my Army days a couple of us had already read it and literally turned around the work-ethic of a bunch of misfits & had a pretty tight, kick-ass squad. Put into practice it is much more than just the words.

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

Where is John Galt? Funny how true this cautionary tale is...... libs just do not understand talent, aptitude, initiative and intelligence as being valuable to a strong society. The Milton Friedman Free to Choose series was along the same lines when he discusses talent and value. It is hard to capture Ayn Rands philosophy in a movie but has anyone seen the movie??

I dunno but a case could be made that John Galt was just elected POTUS.

As to your comment

libs just do not understand talent, aptitude, initiative and intelligence as being valuable to a strong society.

I would say they DO understand and that is precisely why they do all that they can to marginalize those with those skills and prevent (via Common Core) any more of the peasantry from acquiring them. How else ya gonna control the masses?

[Golf1echo]

It would appear despite the Dem's self narrative, existentialism is alive and well. Perhaps a decade or so of life experience will change that for some of the younger liberals?

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Golf1echo

It would appear despite the Dem's self narrative, existentialism is alive and well. Perhaps a decade or so of life experience will change that for some of the younger liberals?

They will need guiding hands in their deprogramming.

[craigepo]

Originally Posted by Trapper John

I dunno but a case could be made that John Galt was just elected POTUS.
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Interesting thought. Some definite parallels.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Trapper John

I dunno but a case could be made that John Galt was just elected POTUS.

LOL I was thinking the same thing

As to your comment I would say they DO understand and that is precisely why they do all that they can to marginalize those with those skills and prevent (via Common Core) any more of the peasantry from acquiring them. How else ya gonna control the masses?

You are right my thoughts are they see them as an obstacle to their Oligarchy where in our thinking they are critical to strength

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Golf1echo

It would appear despite the Dem's self narrative, existentialism is alive and well. Perhaps a decade or so of life experience will change that for some of the younger liberals?

Here's what I think is a good essay, from someone who purports to want to see a functional 2-party system, and takes their existing Democratic party to the woodshed. (Personally I think it's too soon for them to heed any of this, wrapped up in their self-pity-projection-fetal-position-whatever-the-hell-thing-they're-doing right now.)

Any any rate, worth a read in my opinion, even if they aren't capable of such candor.

Hey, Democrats! We need you to get your act together.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Recent study (observations) of columnists, pundits and liberal journalists opining in the various newspaper editorials, magazines and whatnots filling my "news" apps and rag stands indicates to me the Democrats are busy reading...

Mein Kämpf

While they ponder the issue of the "Death of Democracy in America." If I were to post links I'm sure it would crash the server. These people are absolutely loosing their minds right now.

I for one hope the Republic finds a strong foothold in the next four years and states return to forming a more perfect union.

[cbtengr]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Here's what I think is a good essay, from someone who purports to want to see a functional 2-party system, and takes their existing Democratic party to the woodshed. (Personally I think it's too soon for them to heed any of this, wrapped up in their self-pity-projection-fetal-position-whatever-the-hell-thing-they're-doing right now.)

Any any rate, worth a read in my opinion, even if they aren't capable of such candor.

]Hey, Democrats! We need you to get your act together.[/COLOR]

That is a great read, however we all know that it was the evil Russkies that cost the dems their win.

[sfshooter]

Originally Posted by Trapper John

Before you start with "Fountainhead" or "Atlas Shrugged", I suggest you read "Anthem" as a very good primer. JMHO

Thank you sir. Will do!

[NurseTim]

Originally Posted by JimP

Funny, I am currently re-reading THE FOUNTAINHEAD. Each year, I re-read both the FountainHead and Atlas Shrugged. Should be required reading for everyone in high school.

Anyone who bleats out an angry screed as above clearly has no concept of what Rand was talking about. She saw the evil in collectivist thought back in the 20's and 30's. The Fountain Head was her first attempt at her "anthem"....she perfected it with ATLAS SHRUGGED. If you haven't read either, get on it: NOW!!!

In some places it is. Though I am sure it is taught from the prospective of the article and not any other prospective.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by NurseTim

In some places it is. Though I am sure it is taught from the prospective of the article and not any other prospective.

Nice use of the word 'prospective', although I almost miss read that as 'perspective'. As in most liberal educators of late would equate Rands' work as capitalism is greed, greed is bad. Self-reliance of the individual and determination to succeed are anathema to their collectivism identity.

Yes maybe it was "in the future" but the future is now. Except I still don't own or drive a hover car.