02-23-2016, 15:54
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Furthermore, as president I'd ask the department heads of DHS, DOJ, NSA, DNI and CIA why they can't hack into this phone that they are in possession of?
If they told me the iOS and encryption is that good, I'd be dumping Blackberry and Samsung from government purchasing contracts.
(Senior USSS special agent loses his iphone in Moscow hotel room while having sex with unpaid prostitute...no problem! In the words of my closest rival- "yur fired!)
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02-23-2016, 18:21
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I have no doubt you would do a better job than any of the fuck sticks running at the moment.
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IMO it's a shame Rick Perry couldn't have got it together.
I think damage to the Country could have been minimized with him at the reins.
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02-23-2016, 18:27
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IMO it's a shame Rick Perry couldn't have got it together.
I think damage to the Country could have been minimized with him at the reins.
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He would've attended a Chief Justice's funeral, and pedophilia wouldn't be an Army Value.
ODNT, good response to the iPhone question. Bonus points for making some other contractors & lobbyists & receipients-of-procurement-largesse quake in their shoes.
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02-24-2016, 09:00
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If they told me the iOS and encryption is that good, I'd be dumping Blackberry and Samsung from government purchasing contracts.
(Senior USSS special agent loses his iphone in Moscow hotel room while having sex with unpaid prostitute...no problem! In the words of my closest rival- "yur fired!) (That cracked me up)
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My thoughts as well - a bunch of hipsters are schooling the 3 letter orgs...however, looking at it from my perspective - private industry has paid me a heap more $$$ than any DoD contract ever did. Not saying I'm more intelligent and a better engineer than my counterparts across the aisle. I'm saying, "Show me the money!".
Guess we need socialism to fix this disparity so that everyone is equal and the 3 letter orgs can attract and retain the types of folks that can encrypt a tween's cell phone so that even the NSA can't crack it.
On the other hand, I think we're going about this all wrong - the FBI should've said, "We have reason to believe that there are never before seen nude selfies of Jennifer Lawrence on this phone..." and that sucker would've been hacked before the ink dried on the press release.
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02-24-2016, 09:19
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This Country's like a 350 with 400K miles on it. Needs a rebuild, starting with turning the crank on up to the injection system.
Trump talks like the man to do it. I'm willing to give him and his platform a shot at the risk of the greatest Military conflagration the world has ever known.
Problem is how he's gonna load up the SCOTUS over 8 years, because we're at a timing crux with replacements.
Tryin' to look out for my grandbabies...
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02-24-2016, 11:02
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I agree that the country needs to be rebuilt. That rebuilding needs to start in Washington D.C., and each state legislature. It needs to start in the classroom of the first grade all the way through college and the universities. No one group of academics should rule the brain of our future.
I believe the Constitution and the idea of a Republic and free 'persons' in a free state should elect representatives that represent a majority of the state and not just the ideology of one city should represent that state. If the electoral college is good enough (still) for national elections it should be implemented at the state level so smaller communities are represented at the same level of one major city. These representatives should make up the congress of the nation to ensure equal and equity are a shared interest between the states. This is that business, healthcare, laws and so on are established that no 'person' is denied their constitutional rights by a local ordinance.
The power of the federal government should be in the hands of its citizens and the three branches of government should return to being a check and balance of each other - not giving one more power than the other but support the majority rule - not special interest and fringe groups.
And yes, our military needs to be and should be the best and brightest in the world because, real threats do exist and they will need to be dealt with.
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02-24-2016, 11:08
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That makes too much sense - really wish we had candidates like you running for leadership positions. You really need to stop teasing me. It just isn't fair.
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02-24-2016, 11:23
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I agree that the country needs to be rebuilt. That rebuilding needs to start in Washington D.C., and each state legislature. It needs to start in the classroom of the first grade all the way through college and the universities. No one group of academics should rule the brain of our future.
I believe the Constitution and the idea of a Republic and free 'persons' in a free state should elect representatives that represent a majority of the state and not just the ideology of one city should represent that state. If the electoral college is good enough (still) for national elections it should be implemented at the state level so smaller communities are represented at the same level of one major city. These representatives should make up the congress of the nation to ensure equal and equity are a shared interest between the states. This is that business, healthcare, laws and so on are established that no 'person' is denied their constitutional rights by a local ordinance.
The power of the federal government should be in the hands of its citizens and the three branches of government should return to being a check and balance of each other - not giving one more power than the other but support the majority rule - not special interest and fringe groups.
And yes, our military needs to be and should be the best and brightest in the world because, real threats do exist and they will need to be dealt with.
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WoopWoop! ODNT on fiyah.
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02-24-2016, 14:34
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IMO it's a shame Rick Perry couldn't have got it together.
I think damage to the Country could have been minimized with him at the reins.
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I'm in full agreement with you sir!
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02-24-2016, 19:16
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
I believe the Constitution and the idea of a Republic and free 'persons' in a free state should elect representatives that represent a majority of the state and not just the ideology of one city should represent that state. If the electoral college is good enough (still) for national elections it should be implemented at the state level so smaller communities are represented at the same level of one major city.
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While an interesting idea, I think that there is a flaw in your plan. State legislative districts can be redrawn in order to maintain a population balance within the state. State borders cannot be redrawn to balance population numbers within the nation, hence the EC.
Pat
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02-24-2016, 21:32
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While an interesting idea, I think that there is a flaw in your plan. State legislative districts can be redrawn in order to maintain a population balance within the state. State borders cannot be redrawn to balance population numbers within the nation, hence the EC.
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Understand your point. While we know and have experienced how well that works or doesn't work. I also know that in my state and the rest of the Northwest only the cities of Seattle, Portland and Boise matter both in state elections and national elections. If you control the city folk and give them bread and circuses they control the outcome at the expense of the farmers, ranchers, and other hard working productive people (usually the ones paying the Lions-share of taxes.)
To me, it seems those city counsel members and the legislative district representatives from the most populated counties want to raise taxes and give away free shit and the representatives from the outlying counties are the ones standing in the way. Seems the whole problem with congress is the same problem: California, New York, and one or two other East Coast states keep trying to tell the rest of the country what's best for them.
Honestly I wish the EC would go away. It's no longer needed as it was intended. Presidential candidates don't ride Steam Locomotive across the country and attend the State Fair during and election year. I believe a singular "popular" vote can be counted and verified electronically in seconds.
Let's fix voter fraud, gerrymandering districts for party politics and campaign finance reform and let the legitimate and authorized voters decide.
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02-24-2016, 21:52
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Honestly I wish the EC would go away. It's no longer needed as it was intended.
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Better that the 17 Amendment goes away and give back to the states the 2 EC votes, each, that they were intended to cast. Remember, the Constitution would not have been ratified if senators were also to be elected by popular vote. In our Republic, the states were to get a voice, too.
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02-25-2016, 06:19
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Better that the 17 Amendment goes away and give back to the states the 2 EC votes, each, that they were intended to cast. Remember, the Constitution would not have been ratified if senators were also to be elected by popular vote. In our Republic, the states were to get a voice, too.Pat
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Right on.
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02-25-2016, 08:35
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Honestly I wish the EC would go away. It's no longer needed as it was intended. Presidential candidates don't ride Steam Locomotive across the country and attend the State Fair during and election year. I believe a singular "popular" vote can be counted and verified electronically in seconds.
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That settles it for me. ODNT for Prez. Were can I donate to your campaign?
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02-25-2016, 09:04
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Understand your point. While we know and have experienced how well that works or doesn't work. I also know that in my state and the rest of the Northwest only the cities of Seattle, Portland and Boise matter both in state elections and national elections. If you control the city folk and give them bread and circuses they control the outcome at the expense of the farmers, ranchers, and other hard working productive people (usually the ones paying the Lions-share of taxes.)
To me, it seems those city council members and the legislative district representatives from the most populated counties want to raise taxes and give away free shit and the representatives from the outlying counties are the ones standing in the way. Seems the whole problem with congress is the same problem: California, New York, and one or two other East Coast states keep trying to tell the rest of the country what's best for them.
Honestly I wish the EC would go away. It's no longer needed as it was intended. Presidential candidates don't ride Steam Locomotive across the country and attend the State Fair during and election year. I believe a singular "popular" vote can be counted and verified electronically in seconds.
Let's fix voter fraud, gerrymandering districts for party politics and campaign finance reform and let the legitimate and authorized voters decide.
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I like most of your platform; however, I have to disagree with your stand on the EC. PSM has a much better idea - ditch the 17th Amendment. The Founding Fathers rightly feared the tyranny of the majority.
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