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Old 12-08-2015, 16:14   #16
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Thanks for all the illuminating information. I am still surprised that the ever-vigilant NRA and the nations gun owners actually allowed this gradual white-anting of the Constitution.
I have read more than once that the NRA was at the table during the 1968 restrictions. The NRA of today, speaking Second Amendment rights, is not the NRA of decades ago when "shooting sports" was their spoken word.

Just in time, I have another message from the NRA that they need more money to protect my rights.
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Old 12-08-2015, 17:44   #17
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Obama's understaning of the Right to B

The Obama's understand the Second Amendment...."The Right To Bear Arms" to mean "The Right to BARE arms"
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Old 12-08-2015, 22:02   #18
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The first ten Amendments to the United States Constitution, often referred to as the Bill of Rights, is actually a list of prohibited government actions. Besides despising the 2nd Amendment, the United States-haters also wholly ignore the 10th Amendment. The 10th is a really well-written law, but the people living government funded existences are so comfortable that they don't really care if the Amendment is ignored, as long as the welfare checks and Obama phones keep coming.
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Old 12-09-2015, 00:52   #19
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Speaking as a complete outsider, whose own gun rights are under extreme pressure by a criminal government I compare what has happened in the USA and South Africa. In the USA, it seems to me that your gun rights have been circumvented in two ways. Firstly, as discussed earlier, the Open/Concealed Carry issue has greatly infringed on the right to own and more importantly BEAR arms. The second of course is the sneaky notion of Gun-Free Zones. Where the authorities have failed to prevent you from bearing arms yourself, they have simply made parts of the country "Not-America" by declaring them gun free zones.
In South Africa, the rules and qualifications you need to bear arms have now become so onerous, and the re-licensing every 5 years, has made it very difficult to own a weapon. The purposely underfunded Firearms Registry is staffed with very lazy and not very bright individuals. So even when you have jumped through the hoops, they lose your paperwork or other wise make things very difficult. Ironically, this has had the effect that the old Apartheid government insisted on and that was to keep licensed firearms out of the hands of Blacks. Funnily enough, the government has been challenged so many times in court now that it is in fact impossible for them to arbitrarily refuse a license application, so it is possible to own as many firearms as you wish, providing you jump through all the hoops.This was not the case with the Apartheid regime where gun right were considered a privilege , not a right.
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