MARSOC - Page 2

Beef · 06-20-2015, 08:25

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I enjoy the sport of Jar Bashing as much as I enjoy clubbing SEALS.....

Now you've got PETA involved!

Sohei · 06-20-2015, 09:09

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I enjoy the sport of Jar Bashing as much as I enjoy clubbing SEALS.....

Yeah, but the leather straps around our necks help to support our heads which are hard as rocks from enduring the many years of Jar Bashing.

Sdiver · 06-20-2015, 09:14

Q: Ya know why God made Marines ???

A: To let 2nd LTs feel smart.

Richard · 06-20-2015, 09:26

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Originally Posted by Beef

I do think the patch idea is good, though. It's a cool patch with a great history. It had been worn for several years by MARSOC Marines in original and variant forms. I think that just official use of the patch and retention of the name MARSOC would have been the best scenario.

Thanks for the FRB v Raider background, Beef. I was just being lazy and didn't want to go dig out my copy of Ladd's Commandos and Rangers of WW2 this morning.

As far as the old Raider Bn patch goes - I can't see any SSI today incorporating something like the "Jolly Roger" in it (unlike the USN's VF-103 a/c markings) and the dagger of the current SSI is IMO a fair compromise in its historically symbolic representation of allied commando forces.

And inre Marine bashing - well, that's kinda like going after baby seals in the arctic...they make it way too easy and it's really not that much of a challenge.

Richard

Beef · 06-20-2015, 09:41

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Originally Posted by Richard

Thanks for the FRB v Raider background, Beef. I was just being lazy and didn't want to go dig out my copy of Ladd's Commandos and Rangers of WW2 this morning.

As far as the old Raider Bn patch goes - I can't see any SSI today incorporating something like the "Jolly Roger" in it (unlike the USN's VF-103 a/c markings) and the dagger of the current SSI is IMO a fair compromise in its historically symbolic representation of allied commando forces.

And inre Marine bashing - well, that's kinda like going after baby seals in the arctic...they make it way too easy and it's really not that much of a challenge.

Richard

I only come in here to embrace the suck and feel the love....

**Ambush Master** · 06-20-2015, 09:47

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Originally Posted by Richard

When we finished our draft induction physicals, those of us deemed fit enough to serve were taken into a large room where a Marine NCO appeared and called off a list of names from a roster on his clipboard. Those guys left with that NCO and I never saw them again.

Those of us remaining were then confronted by an Army NCO who placed us into a formation, called us to attention, and turned the formation over to an Army Officer who then administerd the oath of allegience before we got on a few buses and traveled to Fort Ord to begin BCT.

I always figured I was selected for the Army because my test scores were too high for the Marines and I had a birth certificate which could identify both of my parents.

Richard

EASY THERE R!!

My Mother was a Marine during WWII !!

Richard · 06-20-2015, 10:13

Beef and AM - so you guys are claiming "exception to the rule" status and seeking an exception to policy inre to what my Dad (USN) used to refer to as "sea-going bellhop"

(Marine) bashing around here?

You'll need to submit a memorandum requesting a policy waiver along with a copy of your AFBT scores and notarized birth certificate to the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Misguided Stepchildren for consideration and action.

Richard

**Pete** · 06-20-2015, 21:14

United States Navy Infantry Auxiliary.

TacOfficer · 10-01-2016, 19:47

FYI
New article (SEP 30 2016) posted in Military Times concerning MARSOC's decision to go with the Glock 19

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/art...cial-operators

Utah Bob · 10-06-2016, 14:19

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Originally Posted by TacOfficer

FYI
New article (SEP 30 2016) posted in Military Times concerning MARSOC's decision to go with the Glock 19

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/art...cial-operators

The 1911 forums are going nutz over that. Didn't the Marines just buy a shitload of Colt CQB pistols??

And whats this bullshit about the concealability of the 19. Why the hell do they nead that? Going into Muslim saloons?

TacOfficer · 10-06-2016, 16:29

When colt rolled out the M45A1 a former teammate of mine ran out purchased one, all the while saying you know it's good if the Marines chose it and mocking my plastic Glock.

Now I won't argue the virtues of Glock and colt 1911s. Many of you are way more versed in that than I, but I'm soooo temped to look up that old teammate.

( http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Military...-Battle-Pistol)

frostfire · 10-06-2016, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Utah Bob

The 1911 forums are going nutz over that. Didn't the Marines just buy a shitload of Colt CQB pistols??

And whats this bullshit about the concealability of the 19. Why the hell do they nead that? Going into Muslim saloons?

At the nationals, I spoke with the 1911 gunsmith/armorer who services the MARSOC 1911. With the $$$ involved, I think the switch is as much for financial reason as it is to keep up with the demand. Met a MARSOC at airborne who is not a "gun guy." He prefers the Glock over 1911.

IMHOO, 1911 is definitely better for 1 hand shooting at 50 yards though. I'm sure that scenario happens in battle all the time!

**Team Sergeant** · 10-07-2016, 16:08

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Originally Posted by frostfire

At the nationals, I spoke with the 1911 gunsmith/armorer who services the MARSOC 1911. With the $$$ involved, I think the switch is as much for financial reason as it is to keep up with the demand. Met a MARSOC at airborne who is not a "gun guy." He prefers the Glock over 1911.

IMHOO, 1911 is definitely better for 1 hand shooting at 50 yards though. I'm sure that scenario happens in battle all the time!

Yeah, that's nice. But a few of us know the truth, one less action to perform, one less thing to remember for the marines. No thumb safety to disengage. What will be amusing is watch them with their fingers outside the trigger guard, just like our law enforcement. Another 6/10th to one second added to "re-engage" hostile targets.

Enjoy the glock. (HK should have got the contract)

WarriorDiplomat · 10-07-2016, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Utah Bob

The 1911 forums are going nutz over that. Didn't the Marines just buy a shitload of Colt CQB pistols??

And whats this bullshit about the concealability of the 19. Why the hell do they nead that? Going into Muslim saloons?

I suspect it has something to do with getting permission to conceal carry in many countries where we are not at war but the ambassador not wanting the overt armed american presence in civies to antognize any pending issues but allowing the self protection of our troops and.....the added security.

Utah Bob · 10-11-2016, 19:49

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Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

I suspect it has something to do with getting permission to conceal carry in many countries where we are not at war but the ambassador not wanting the overt armed american presence in civies to antognize any pending issues but allowing the self protection of our troops and.....the added security.

And I understand that......for SF.