10-04-2014, 15:51
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
I have to say, if I were a guest of IS, I am pretty sure I would rather be hit with a JDAM than have my head sawed off on video.
YMMV.
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I really like your style, TR! (And personally, I would agree - and take out not only me, but as many of the SOBs as possible! So I would call for a 6,000 pounder. Definitely preferable to a starring role in their next snuff muzzie-porno video.)
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10-06-2014, 06:27
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Originally Posted by YM Cating
I don't need to be in the military to understand that I have a duty to this country.
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You're right....BUT, I think you do have to be in the military at some point to appreciate the cost of that duty.
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10-06-2014, 09:21
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Originally Posted by 1stindoor
You're right....BUT, I think you do have to be in the military at some point to appreciate the cost of that duty.
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Can't argue there.
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10-06-2014, 15:42
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Does anyone know how many Americans are currently being held by IS?
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11-16-2014, 05:19
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It appears the pedophilic savages have beheaded US Army veteran Peter Kassig 
Link > http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/is...hostage-kassig
Edited to add....
Islam is the Petri dish that allows vile pathogens to grow and flourish..
Spencer was right, it wasn't up very long, however, if you want to know how they justify it, all you need to do is read the Quran...
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The video is here. Warning: it is extremely graphic, and will not be up long. If you catch it while it is still up and want to skip the beheadings (there are many, not just of Kassig, then stop watching around the 9:30 mark, as the beheadings are shown in full, and then Kassig’s severed head at the feet of the British Muslim who issues the final warning. I put the link here because the video shows the Islamic State’s global aspirations, and how it justifies them by reference to Islamic teachings, and indeed how the Islamic State jihadis explain and justify everything they do by reference to Islamic texts and teachings — for example, the beheader says that Kassig fought against the Muslims as a U.S. soldier in Iraq, which means he is an “American Crusader” and can be lawfully put to death, despite his subsequent conversion to Islam.
To continue to ignore the Islamic State’s stated motives and goals, and to pretend that they are other than what they are, is nothing short of suicidal. This ideology has to be confronted, and it is held by more people than just the members of the Islamic State.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/is...hostage-kassig
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11-16-2014, 08:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
I have to say, if I were a guest of IS, I am pretty sure I would rather be hit with a JDAM than have my head sawed off on video.
YMMV.
TR
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I would sign off on a document to that effect during pre deployment prep. That said, if it was possible "we" should have made an effort to recover him.
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11-16-2014, 15:09
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LTC(R) Peters reminds of me of when TR was saying You don't tell them you don't have a strategy even if you don't really have one.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/11...-peter-kassig/
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11-16-2014, 16:31
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Originally Posted by T-Rock
It appears the pedophilic savages have beheaded US Army veteran Peter Kassig ... |
Rest-in-Peace Soldier.
Hope the US military brings those responsible for this unthinkable act of terror to justice! And hope it is painful and long for them, and they cry out to their god when they see HELL!
Holly 
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11-17-2014, 12:48
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IMO, they were never going to do anything good with Peter Kassig. He was not only a Soldier but a Ranger who was aiding people in the ME. They couldn't let any example of good coming from westerners to remain. Wouldn't that hurt their cause?
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11-17-2014, 18:56
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Why is no one using his mooselimb name? He converted didn't he?
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11-17-2014, 20:04
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Why is no one using his mooselimb name? He converted didn't he?
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Most of us probably would pretend to as well, if you were being tortured and mock executed multiple times per day.
You might want to do some reading on how they are treating their captives, and consider how you would react in that situation.
TR
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11-17-2014, 21:52
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Exactly. I don't care who you are or how bad you really are EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE has a breaking point.
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Truth.....
I do not believe he converted to to the religion of pieces...
You gotta do what you gotta do to create an opportunity to get out of the situation at hand....
Requiescat in pace Ranger Kassig...
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11-17-2014, 23:46
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Originally Posted by Richard
MOO, but any Westerner who willfully travels to such a conflicted area not on official "We, the people" governmental business, and in spite of the numerous reports and warnings, knowing full well the historical situation there and our limited influence and access, is telling our collective governments:
"Thank you very much for the information; I fully understand the risks but I'm checking the block which waives those reasonably implied 'guarantees' of my personal safety, absolving y'all of any responsibility in the matter, and going to do what I want to do anyway."
So be it.
RE: #4, #7 and #13. I may be in error, but it sounds to me as if the "we" being tossed around so freely, used in the context of such statements, means somebody else.
That being said, based upon my experiences, the supposition that "we" are doing little to nothing to attempt to resolve the dire straits in which this particular citizen placed himself, even if he checked that waiver box, is naive in the extreme.
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986, "Safe Passage" provision theoretically protects citizens briefly transiting states with a secured and unloaded firearm.
Richard, I tend to agree with you on this one.
Same for our citizens or residents traveling to Ebola infested areas.
Daniel Pearl was the wake-up call. Everyone since has known the potential consequences.
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Well said Rickard and TR.
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11-18-2014, 11:48
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I really hope that all of the Western Muslim apologists are watching IS's actions.
It is hard to imagine, in this day and time, a religion that endorses beheading people solely because they entertain different beliefs. Why is there no parade of moderate Muslims condemning this? Beheading an aid worker? Really?
If this type of belief is truly the shared belief of the Islamic State, then the civilized nations of the world, assuming they have a conscience, should be surrounding any areas with a concentration of IS troops and bombing the place to glass. Infantry should follow-on for mop-up operations. Think William Tecumseh Sherman to the 10th power.
These people are the most atrocious type of criminal-nothing more. They should be excised like a cancer from the face of the planet.
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11-18-2014, 13:11
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If this type of belief is truly the shared belief of the Islamic State, then the civilized nations of the world, assuming they have a conscience, should be surrounding any areas with a concentration of IS troops and bombing the place to glass. Infantry should follow-on for mop-up operations. Think William Tecumseh Sherman to the 10th power.
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