09-25-2014, 00:51
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Well it's not as bad as Reagans left hand salute, or Bush "dog" salute.
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pointing out another person's mistake does not make his mistake okay. and it just makes people who do it look like a snitch who will not take responsibility for their own actions.
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09-25-2014, 04:32
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I wouldn't have a problem if he just wouldn't salute, it's a "tradition" resurrected by Reagan, but I do have a problem with him saluting in a "half-ass" gesture. Either salute correctly or don't salute at all.
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09-25-2014, 05:13
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Originally Posted by Snaquebite
I wouldn't have a problem if he just wouldn't salute, it's a "tradition" resurrected by Reagan, but I do have a problem with him saluting in a "half-ass" gesture. Either salute correctly or don't salute at all.
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09-25-2014, 06:52
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Originally Posted by Snaquebite
I wouldn't have a problem if he just wouldn't salute, it's a "tradition" resurrected by Reagan, but I do have a problem with him saluting in a "half-ass" gesture. Either salute correctly or don't salute at all.
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Absolutely agree. He’s a civilian and not required to salute. If he’s going to continue with it, he should do it right and do it genuinely. As others have stated his focus is elsewhere, like finding the camera in the crowd.
The video link below is from the JFK library and captures some footage from President Kennedy’s visit to Fort Bragg on October 12, 1961 – an iconic day in our Special Forces history. At 02:27 and 03:13 of the footage, JFK returns the salutes with a head nod, greetings, and a handshake. In all cases he looked the soldiers in the eye, and actually recognized them.
It doesn’t matter to me if the recognition is a returned salute, a handshake, or a nod of the head. What matters is that it is done genuinely. Look them in the eye like Kennedy.
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-View...SG-03-S-1.aspx
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09-25-2014, 07:03
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That's the Socialist Salute, it's always half assed and with complete disrespect.
I'm amused that anyone gave a shit. Zero has already shown his incompetence again and again.
Cant we discuss global warming instead? 
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09-25-2014, 08:28
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What is pissing me off is the MSM calling it the "Latte Salute." They are laughing or making it funny or a joke.
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Semper Latte
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09-25-2014, 17:40
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Originally Posted by Mr Furious
Absolutely agree. He’s a civilian and not required to salute. If he’s going to continue with it, he should do it right and do it genuinely. As others have stated his focus is elsewhere, like finding the camera in the crowd.
The video link below is from the JFK library and captures some footage from President Kennedy’s visit to Fort Bragg on October 12, 1961 – an iconic day in our Special Forces history. At 02:27 and 03:13 of the footage, JFK returns the salutes with a head nod, greetings, and a handshake. In all cases he looked the soldiers in the eye, and actually recognized them.
It doesn’t matter to me if the recognition is a returned salute, a handshake, or a nod of the head. What matters is that it is done genuinely. Look them in the eye like Kennedy.
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I agree 100%. Good post.
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09-25-2014, 19:59
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Originally Posted by cat in the hat
pointing out another person's mistake does not make his mistake okay. and it just makes people who do it look like a snitch who will not take responsibility for their own actions.
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Well he doesn't have to salute at all.
"If I throw a dog a bone I don't want to know if it taste good or not." Brick top
Obviously I'm not calling marines dog.
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09-25-2014, 20:06
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Well he doesn't have to salute at all.
"If I throw a dog a bone I don't want to know if it taste good or not." Brick top
Obviously I'm not calling marines dog.
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09-25-2014, 23:15
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Salutes are not required when saluting is obviously inappropriate. (Example: A person carrying articles with both hands, or being otherwise so occupied as to make saluting impracticable) It is not required to salute a senior person or return the salute to a subordinate...
...a buck privatew on his second or third day in boot camp is armed with this knowledge.
In context, the Commander in Chief halfway through his second tour either knows this, or has NEVER bothered to learn. His indifference should be the issue, not the crispness of his saltue. The recognition between two countrymen is the issue. A stern gaze and a nod of the head would have been completely appropriate.
I'm still more interested in why someone with such deep seeded concern about global warming is drinking his beverage from a styrofoam cup, on his way to give a speech about how gloabal warming is Americas fault.
...by the way, thank for continuing your American apology campaign mr president.
As far as "Bush did it" "Regan did it" et all...
...odd how NOTHING seems to be owned by the POTUS. Everything he does is tied to someone elses failure. How quaint.
As far as throwing the dog a bone...
...I sincerly wish for you to also be the benefactor of such respectful generaosity.
Something about the "If I throw a dog a bone I don't want to know if it taste good or not." mentality that sounds a LOT like "let them eat cake"...
...which after all, is EXACTLY how this administration operates.
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09-26-2014, 00:40
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His indifference should be the issue, not the crispness of his salute.
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You nailed him!
This is the premise of the entire buggaboo about POTUS: His indifference. The tragedy is that he's got the job of representing the integrity of the free world, and he's indifferent about that, too. Indifference applies to everything he's done since winning the raffle back in '08. He's a narcissist, and nothing outside of himself matters at all. Imagine what it's like working every day for this POS. How'd you like to be that Marine having the job of saluting his Royal Turdness, or the poor Marine who has to hold his umbrella while he rants on and on about himself? That has to be the worst set of orders in today's military! I wouldn't want him to salute me...I'd want a ticket to Canada!!
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