HK Triggers

[ccrn]

Bought a Glock-19. I love it. Sorry

[tom kelly]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

That "pistol" was supplied to the Special Forces by an "OGA".....

Desert Shield/Desert Storm
So there I am about to fire/text a P7 suppressed. No ear plugs and it was me and a few other SF'ers on a makeshift range somewhere in Saudi.....

So I fire this this and it almost blew out my eardrums! I was thinking "WTF"!!!!!!! The only way anyone was going to use this "weapon" quietly was to hold the weapon by the suppressor and quietly "beat" the bad-guy to death with it. That said the same OGA sent us a pistol that was so quiet that you could only hear the skull cracking as the bullet hit it.......... We're not going to discuss that one.......

H&K made a pistol on an RFP for SOCOM it was the H&K Mark 23 in .45 ACP and after speaking to a tech Rep at H&K he told me that the only suppressor used and tested on the Mark 23 was manufactured by Knights Industries with a price @$1700 dollars. The pistol cost was $2100 and the Tax Stamp $200.EXPENSIVE but when you want the best you pay for it...Tom Kelly

[mdpatterson]

I have to agree that the original MK 23 and Knights OHG (Offensive Hand Gun.......this name alone should please TS) can is the best pistol/suppressor I have ever seen. I was lucky enough to get my hands on two of them brand new in their cases with all the goodies years ago. It is a large weapon and not for everyone, but it fits my hands perfect and is incredibly easy to shoot......add the suppressor and you are close to a carbine. When the value started going crazy to collectors, I put them away and shot the tactical and the newer Knights can (No longer called OHG) more often. I'm a big fan of most of what HK puts out, but there is a noticeable difference in quality between a few of their products. The same goes with the Knights can. The OHG designed and built in small quantities is clearly a superior product than the later versions although they look almost identical.

I have also shot a "Suppressed" P7 and while not as bad as what TS experienced, not exactly what I would call an effective attempt at suppressing anything but my desire to shoot it again. I am however very interested in the one TS mentioned that we aren't going to discuss ........life would be much more simple and less expensive if I could learn to love a Glock.

Mike

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[Team Sergeant]

The HK MK 23 was the dumbest pistol ever produced....... not only was it too big but it was stupid big...... But the SEALS wanted it and they got it.

Guess who was at SF Command when the SEALS called and asked if we wanted the gun.......

Now the HK "Tactical" was the best offensive handgun ever produced.
I don't own an HK MK 23 and never will, well, unless I grow over 6'11" in the next few years.......

[mdpatterson]

I still like it but can see how it wouldn't be for everybody. I'll bring both and both cans when we find a place to shoot. HK could have put all the same quality in the tactical, but they cut a few corners when you compare them side by side (USP Tactical is one of my favorite pistols so I'm not saying anything is wrong with it).

You have to appreciate it was labeled as offensive instead of defensive at least.