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[Team Sergeant]

I am amused by the "global warming" debate.

The earth is around four billion years old. We've been on it a few thousand and keeping accurate records for much less. It was only recently we discovered the KT boundary and realized it's enormous impact on weather and evolution. And in 2008 we discovered how lava flows reveal clues to magnetic field reversals. http://www.news.wisc.edu/15676

Now we have a scientist that has already been laughed at by "real" scientists and scolded by his peers for his lack of actual scientific analysis/research. But his "theory" has bolstered the left wing agenda even though it's full of holes and millions are taking it as science fact.

I say, follow the money.........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ene...llionaire.html

Never let a faux global warming theory go to waste........

Didn't "Zero" invest half a trillion of my tax dollars in a "green" solar company that went bankrupt?

Follow the money.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Tango three

I have no idea (about Vikings) in Greenland. I did read Jared Diamonds books Guns, Germs and Steeland Collapse. And I think the challenges of farming in Greenland have more to do with the ice covering most of the island than global warming/climate change. As for Northern Germany, I don't know.

Your laziness to even look up the issue of Vikings farming in Greenland and the whole Medieval Warm Period shows you put little thought into your posts. You just throw up stuff and hopes it sticks somewhere.

Now if you wanted to debate this issue you would have looked up Vikings farming in Greenland and how it was impacted by the Medieval Warm Period. Your would have then replied like a good little AGW person and said "Yeah, but that was localized to Europe and the North Atlantic."

To which I would have replied ... http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6158/617

But Hey!, Whats science got to do with the religion of AGW.

Step up your posts T3 or your stay may be shorter than you think.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Tango three

....The end of the Second World War, power tools, and the postwar housing boom resulted in the harvesting of about 95% of the existing forests (approximately an area the size of three Rhode Island). --A Man Among Giants Readers Digest April 2014 p116--.....

That statement is about the Redwood Forests - Now for total forests go to this site...

http://www.fia.fs.fed.us/library/bri...actsMetric.pdf

"...It is estimated that—at the beginning of European settle-
ment—in 1630 the area of forest land that would become
the United States was 423 million hectares or about 46
percent of the total land area. By 1907, the area of forest
land had declined to an estimated 307 million hectares or
34 percent of the total land area. Forest area has been rel-
atively stable since 1907. In 1997, 302 million hectares—
or 33 percent of the total land area of the United States—
was in forest land. Today’s forest land area amounts to
about 70 percent of the area that was forested in 1630.
Since 1630, about 120 million hectares of forest land
have been converted to other uses—mainly agricultural.
More than 75 percent of the net conversion to other uses
occurred in the 19th century. ..."

Now this site is talking about Forests - not trees in residential areas. Go look at civil war period pictures taken around cities. Some places its hard to find a tree anywhere. Some of the old court houses were in a dusty field - and now have large oaks around them.

I don't think cutting the Redwoods is causing AGW.

[Tango three]

Originally Posted by Pete

Your laziness to even look up the issue of Vikings farming in Greenland and the whole Medieval Warm Period shows you put little thought into your posts.

Step up your posts T3 or your stay may be shorter than you think.

We'll I did read Jared Diamonds books. And the failure of the early Norse colonies were covered in depth in the first chapter of Collapse.
I didn't really see how Vikings in Greenland had much to do with my question about the effects of deforestation on the validity of the global warming debate. (Which does seem to focus on greenhouse gases.)
As I stated, I'm unconvinced either way, but something does seem to be happening.
I do appreciate Tree potatoes replies.

BTW if you haven't read Diamond, Guns, Germs and Steel is fascinating but it is looooong.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Tango three

We'll I did read Jared Diamonds books. And the failure of the early Norse colonies were covered in depth in the first chapter of Collapse. ......

You now have an assignment.

Your next post will explain the effects of global warming on the collapse of the colonies in Greenland.

We know about the transition from large animals to smaller animals, over grazing and failure to take up the fishing ways of the natives but I'm talking about the climate.

The colonies in Greenland lasted about 550 years. Virgina Dare of Lost Colony fame was only born 427 years ago.