02-17-2014, 22:35
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I guess someone's sweeping up the evidence trail. I couldn't find the majority of these links. FB pages gone. Pic is gone. Instagram accounts gone.
Not that I need to see what she did. Sounds pretty clear.
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02-17-2014, 22:40
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02-17-2014, 22:45
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I'm sorry, but as somebody that has spent time as Honor Guard this is just fucking disgusting.  I have seen the sadness of a beautiful young bride with children or bearing children as I stood by their Husband's casket. I've seen the parents that have had to say goodbye to a child forever, I've even had to perform my duty's for a fallen Brother. Some of my hardest days were on the Honor Guard, and for this person to play fuck fuck games with this most sacred of duties is just fucking plain ass bullshit!!
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02-18-2014, 07:22
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Originally Posted by Billy L-bach
we didn't know the "entire" story behind the picture of the Marines urinating on a dead body when that particular photo surfaced...
...so maybe this fine band of misunderstood troops should get the same amount of understanding as those misunderstood Marines
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Difficult to misinterpret a photo of a group of servicemen standing around urinating on a dead body.
IMO, any way you look at it all, using social media to wilfully post 'look at us' photos like that Marine group's or this burial detail's behaviors is confounding and bothersome to me.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=39878
Will it soon come to this for that 'million hits' moment of fame? 
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02-18-2014, 07:27
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Speaking of 1M hits..
Did anyone capture the picture of the tail-gate comment?? Is so, please post..
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02-18-2014, 09:04
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I'd like to be her CSM right now.
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The national guard is a lot more lenient than Mother Army, remember the bottom feeding piece of crap North Carolina National Guard SGM John Letuli ?
I'm sure Teresa Harrison and her idiot friends will get a free pass on this issue.
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02-18-2014, 09:16
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02-18-2014, 09:21
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Looks like the WING has competition..
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/air...ericans-funny/
These A$$Hats keep this up and there won't be a need for HC reductions..
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02-18-2014, 10:11
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Not that it excuses the action, but that picture is 3 years old. The individuals involved were reprimanded. Those of us in the aerial port community were ashamed, but we used it as a "teachable moment" for our troops. No one's career ended over it, as far as I know.
Some of you may have seen the picture of the airman posing with the POW/MIA Flag that went viral on Friday, which lead the CMSgt of the AF to call for an investigation. Too bad the picture was taken 3 years ago, the airman punished, and by all accounts, she is now a stellar NCO. Doesn't matter to those that are calling for her court martial and dishonorable discharge.
I am not saying what any if them have done is right, and we should be appalled. But it is up to us as leaders to teach those that work for us why some of these items are sacrosanct and why you do not dishonor them. We may think it is self explainatory, but maybe it is not.
As my mom once told me " but by the grace of God go I". The only thing that has saved many of us from this kind of scrutiny is we didn't grow up with the internet. How many of us could go back through our pictures from when we were young and stupid and not find pictures we are glad our parents or chain of command never saw.
Teachable moments, all.
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02-18-2014, 10:20
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Not that it excuses the action, but that picture is 3 years old. The individuals involved were reprimanded. Those of us in the aerial port community were ashamed, but we used it as a "teachable moment" for our troops. No one's career ended over it, as far as I know.
Some of you may have seen the picture of the airman posing with the POW/MIA Flag that went viral on Friday, which lead the CMSgt of the AF to call for an investigation. Too bad the picture was taken 3 years ago, the airman punished, and by all accounts, she is now a stellar NCO. Doesn't matter to those that are calling for her court martial and dishonorable discharge.
I am not saying what any if them have done is right, and we should be appalled. But it is up to us as leaders to teach those that work for us why some of these items are sacrosanct and why you do not dishonor them. We may think it is self explainatory, but maybe it is not.
As my mom once told me " but by the grace of God go I". The only thing that has saved many of us from this kind of scrutiny is we didn't grow up with the internet. How many of us could go back through our pictures from when we were young and stupid and not find pictures we are glad our parents or chain of command never saw.
Teachable moments, all.
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Promoting "staller NCOs" is not a teaching point.
Reduction to E1 and a less than honorable is a teaching point.
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02-18-2014, 10:27
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
Promoting "staller NCOs" is not a teaching point.
Reduction to E1 and a less than honorable is a teaching point.
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Fat fingers misspelling on an iPhone.
Yep, dishonorable discharge for doing something stupid, not illegal, stupid. I am glad all of us who are older and wiser are so perfect.
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02-18-2014, 10:31
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
Promoting "staller NCOs" is not a teaching point.
Reduction to E1 and a less than honorable is a teaching point.
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She was reprimanded pretty harshly from what I understand. Took her lumps, and busted her butt to get to where she is now. She is probably pretty good at ensuring the airmen that work for her understand the importance of the POW/MIA flag and why it is sacrosanct. But no, dishonorable discharge is a much better way to go.
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02-18-2014, 10:50
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Originally Posted by afchic
Fat fingers misspelling on an iPhone.
Yep, dishonorable discharge for doing something stupid, not illegal, stupid. I am glad all of us who are older and wiser are so perfect.
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I believe he said less than honorable discharge not dishonorable. A less than honorable discharge represents a departure from the conduct and performance expected of all military members. It CERTAINLY applies here.
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02-18-2014, 10:54
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She was reprimanded pretty harshly from what I understand. Took her lumps, and busted her butt to get to where she is now. She is probably pretty good at ensuring the airmen that work for her understand the importance of the POW/MIA flag and why it is sacrosanct. But no, dishonorable discharge is a much better way to go. 
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Yup just as I thought....... not even a slap on the wrist.
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02-18-2014, 11:19
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Originally Posted by afchic
She was reprimanded pretty harshly from what I understand. Took her lumps, and busted her butt to get to where she is now. She is probably pretty good at ensuring the airmen that work for her understand the importance of the POW/MIA flag and why it is sacrosanct. But no, dishonorable discharge is a much better way to go. 
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Well, she (and her cohorts) should fit right in with the current AF Quality Force Review board.  One down 24,999 to go.
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