01-23-2014, 10:14
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DOD Releases New Religious Accommodation Instruction
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=121525
Accommodation of Religious Practices Within the Military Services (Updated)
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/c...df/130017p.pdf
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01-23-2014, 10:57
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So.......Hassan can finally grow his beard again. 
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01-23-2014, 13:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orion5
Next will be the camo burkas and niqabs.....
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It's already there..
http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/306...tary-uniforms/
This should really rattle the libs and they're NO RELIGION IN THE WORK PLACE posture..
The ACLU will crank the courts with lots of work.
In the guise of no religious bias,, do you think everyone will get a beard?? You can't use religion as a filter and be unbiased..
After all you cowboy(s) need to live up to your image.. 
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01-23-2014, 18:21
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Beards
Well, I wonder how well they can seal a gas mask with a beard. Gas chamber ought to be fun to watch.
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01-23-2014, 19:46
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Hey, if Sally can have a ponytail and be an Infantryman, err...InfantryPERSON, why can't Johnny?
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01-23-2014, 20:58
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...if I change my religious preference on my ERB can I grow a beard and wear a turban?
I need to find a religious movement that requires tattoos........
The inmates are really making that last big push to take control of the asylum
Silly fuckers
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01-23-2014, 21:15
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...I need to find a religious movement that requires tattoos........
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Asatru! That way you can have it all. Beard, hair, tattoos, and a honking big axe.
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01-23-2014, 21:22
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I'm cool with it. No need to ask my young Soldier for his weapon to then unmask to find out if it's chemical persistent or biological. Self selecting canaries in the coal mine. Next war will be a bit nasty methinks.
Didn't Jesus have a beard? Just saying 18C = carpenter = Jesus was a carpenter = you can have a beard.
I could go all day down the MOSs. I'm intel, expected (though very untrue) to be all knowing......BAM!!!! Beard for religious expression and efficiency to distribute knowledge to the flock.
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01-23-2014, 21:41
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Asatru! That way you can have it all. Beard, hair, tattoos, and a honking big axe.
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I'm there !!!!!! 
http://www.religionfacts.com/a-z-rel...dex/asatru.htm
Wonder if it will exempt me from the ACA (Barrycare) ??? 
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01-23-2014, 22:25
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
Asatru! That way you can have it all. Beard, hair, tattoos, and a honking big axe.
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Or Pastafarian (church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster), with traditional pirate attire...beard, hair, tattoos, long blades, beer, and buxom arm candy. Metal colandar headgear is optional. http://www.venganza.org/
Just think, local commanders don't have authority to deny these exception to policy requests; they must be sent up the chain to the top Pentagon brass. Can't wait to see some of those emails!
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01-24-2014, 07:30
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I found it interesting that once our men went to war and started coming home with beards, now lots of guys are growing beards and going for the "I'm a SF guy home on leave" thing at the local bars. It's sort of sad....
On another note, I do love a well armed man with a beard....as long as he is on our side.
I'm still trying to find the guy that brought me coffee in Kirkuk.....he had a great beard. 
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01-24-2014, 14:33
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Quote:
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I found it interesting that once our men went to war and started coming home with beards, now lots of guys are growing beards ----
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TR and I were laughing about the same thing at SHOT - lots of "operator" facial fuzz on Walter Mitties.
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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.
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01-24-2014, 15:08
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TR and I were laughing about the same thing at SHOT - lots of "operator" facial fuzz on Walter Mitties.
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No lie.
At SHOT, I bet 30 percent of the attendees had tactical clothing, if not camo, some sort of web gear, and a beard.
Very few of them looked like vets though.
TR
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01-25-2014, 09:44
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Yes sir, same thing here in every gun show lately. Cracks me up.
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We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men - Boondock Saints
Iraq was never lost and Afghanistan was never quite the easy good war. Those in the media too often pile on and follow the polls rather than offer independent analysis. Campaign rhetoric and politics are one thing - the responsibility of governance is quite another.
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01-26-2014, 23:03
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Question: Back in late 80's off of Gruber road I saw an individual in another company with Ranger fatigues and OD Turban, he appeared to me to be a red headed Caucasian w/beard and many of the Rangers seem to know him. The turban looked sikh to me, but never understood the entirety of the appearance, understand there were foreign officers...one of the things one wonders about later?
Dress code for Super Stinky Legs is relaxed:
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