11-22-2004, 06:45
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Imho...
When I was working. "I" would not had let you touch! The AIC.
There had to be some type of mis-communication(s) problem(s) between the two security details. What they were? I don't know.
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11-22-2004, 10:31
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Being your basic conspiracy theorist - What if Pres Bush's reaction was exactly what bad guys might have been looking for? There he was, alone, reaching into a crowd of people. Perfect time for someone with an agenda to shoot him. I like that he waded in to get his guy, but feel he put himself at risk by doing so.
My opinion is that he owes a responsibility to the American people to not put himself in harms's way.
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11-22-2004, 10:37
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How much risk we he have been at if he hadn't done it but rather continued into the room alone?
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11-22-2004, 10:43
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How much risk we he have been at if he hadn't done it but rather continued into the room alone?
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That's a good point, but would it have been greater than reaching into "scrum" of people?
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11-22-2004, 10:46
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We'll never know now, will we? 
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11-22-2004, 10:48
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To go a step further - That one agent surely wasn't the only one with him. Getting that guy out of middle of the Chilean guards should have been done by other agents. You need to remember that I'm still mad at the idiots who bitch about the Prez not going directly back to DC from FL on 9/11.
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11-22-2004, 11:05
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Now you see why...
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To go a step further - That one agent surely wasn't the only one with him. Getting that guy out of middle of the Chilean guards should have been done by other agents. You need to remember that I'm still mad at the idiots who bitch about the Prez not going directly back to DC from FL on 9/11.
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The POTUS is feared...LMAO! 
I can see terrorist around the world thinking....
"If the POTUS will jump into the middle of scuffle, WTF is he going to do, to us"?
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11-22-2004, 11:16
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Where you bean anyway CRad?
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11-22-2004, 12:00
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To go a step further - That one agent surely wasn't the only one with him. Getting that guy out of middle of the Chilean guards should have been done by other agents. You need to remember that I'm still mad at the idiots who bitch about the Prez not going directly back to DC from FL on 9/11.
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Have you seen the tape?
It appears that the Chileans took umbrage at US security following the POTUS around armed, protecting him in their country.
The Chilean security agents let the principals through, then closed to refuse access to any of the Secret Service agents. This may have been planned in advance.
It wasn't "that guy", all of the Secret Service was trying to push their way through the Chilean security agents to the President.
By the time the POTUS got there, tempers were already starting to flare and physical confrontations were beginning, as one Secret Service agent was grabbed and tossed up against the wall by the HN personnel.
I think the President quickly defused what could have been a pretty ugly situation.
IMHO, any future trips to Chile will be off unless all agree to the security ground rules in advance.
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11-22-2004, 12:29
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IMHO, any future trips to Chile will be off unless all agree to the security ground rules in advance.
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That is the crux of the matter right there. I have nothing but admiration for the Secret Service. They are dedicated professionals. I just don't like the idea of the President of the United States needing to reach into a crowd of people that way.
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11-22-2004, 12:34
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Practicing my verbal take downs. You ready to go 15 rounds with me? 
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11-22-2004, 13:04
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That is the crux of the matter right there. I have nothing but admiration for the Secret Service. They are dedicated professionals. I just don't like the idea of the President of the United States needing to reach into a crowd of people that way.
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Shows a lot of character for POTUS to do that. I was scared and amused (grinning) to a degree after watching the video several times.
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11-22-2004, 13:23
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Anyone got a link to the video??? I have only seen still frames. 
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11-22-2004, 15:16
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Sir SAC!
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11-22-2004, 15:35
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Not without paying for it . . .
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