Krauthammer: Obama "Bait 'n Switch" on Debt Ceiling Compromise

[BKKMAN]

The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a ‘warm body’ democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens… which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it… which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’

‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.

Robert Heinlein

Boehner and his ilk are worse than the noodle-armed French surrender monkeys...more worried about retaining their positions and status rather than standing their ground and doing what is right and in the best interests of the country and its long term viability, regardless of the political consequences incurred by themselves...

[ddoering]

Originally Posted by Paslode

You can accomplish that by merely staying home

I hate inaction.

[Pete]

It is interesting that the House passed a CR that defunded Obamacare and sent it to the Senate where it was added back in - which the House rejected.

The Dem's talk about compromise.....

So the House sends up a CR that only delays Obamacare for a year - which the Senate and President rejects.

The Dem's talk about compromise.....

So the House sends up a CR that only makes Congress subject to Obamacare - which the Senate and President rejects....

The Dem's talk about compromise.....

So the House sends up a CR that does everything the D's want except delays the Medical Device Tax for two years that they have to make up for in other area's - and that appears that it might go through if the R's will give a bit in other areas.

Compromise to the Dem's means total surrender for R's.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by ddoering

I hate inaction.

Me too. But sometimes lack of action send more of a message that active participation......like when only 2 people show for one of those Obama care parties

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Me too. But sometimes lack of action send more of a message that active participation......like when only 2 people show for one of those Obama care parties

lol From annointed to ignored in five short years.

[The Reaper]

Hey, Speaker Boehner-

Turn in your man card and your balls.

What a waste.

TR

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Hey, Speaker Boehner-

Turn in your man card and your balls.

What a waste.

TR

In order to turn them in he must first have a set. Boehner is and always has been a Unic

[ddoering]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Me too. But sometimes lack of action send more of a message that active participation......like when only 2 people show for one of those Obama care parties

Think of it at electoral jujitsu. Use your opponents weight and force against him. If they are going to drive us off a cliff eventually then I say let's accelerate. The sooner this train wreck occurs the sooner they will be discredited and booted out. Then the country can right itself.

[Dusty]

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...8.html?hp=t1_3

Speaker John Boehner told House Republicans Saturday morning that his efforts to strike a deal with President Barack Obama are at a standstill.

There is no agreement, Boehner said in a room in the Capitol Saturday, and there are no negotiations between House Republicans and the White House, since Obama rejected the speaker’s effort to lift the debt ceiling for six weeks and reopen government while setting up a budget negotiating process.

With that, a familiar dynamic has resurfaced 12 days into the government shutdown and five days before Treasury says the nation runs out of borrowing authority: The pendulum has swung back to Senate Republicans, who now look more likely to cut a deal with Obama to end the first government shutdown since 1996, and avoid the first default on U.S. debt in history.

After the news that talks between Boehner and Obama have broken down, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) emerged on the floor to emphasize that the nation’s eyes are firmly fixed on the chamber.

“I was happy to see the Republicans engaged in talks with the president, the House Republicans. That’s over with. It’s done. They’re not talking anymore,” Reid said. “I say to my friends on the Republican side of this Senate, time is running out.”

House Republicans are, for the first time, acknowledging that reality. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) told the closed meeting of GOP lawmakers that, “Senate Republicans need to stand strong and fight,” according to sources in the room.

“It’s all good,” Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) said. “It’s now up to the Senate Republicans to stand up.” LOLOL

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[Pete]

To show where the D's stand a "compromise" bill by Collins (Big time RINO) was shot down.

The D's are saying "Everything or else..............."

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Pete

To show where the D's stand a "compromise" bill by Collins (Big time RINO) was shot down.

The D's are saying "Everything or else..............."

It's up to Ryan, now...

[abc_123]

I am mad a hell that our congress and president can't govern rationally. However at this point there is no compromise. The R's cannot back down. The petty shit like closing parks and memorials pales in comparison to what will happen when/if we complete the lobotomy and transition to a European-style socialist state.

I'm glad that the Obamination gave Speaker Boner a second chance to find his balls. Best thing that could have happened to the R's. Now if only McCaian would go away...

[alelks]

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[abc_123]

Originally Posted by alelks

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You know, Al I do not live in DC, but if I did, I would go. It was a big step for me, but now I do write to my congressmen/senators. It's the least that I can do. 20 yrs ago I never would have thought of doing that but now I realize that I must participate in the political process to at least counteract one one other dumb ass in this country.

Term limits are the only way out of this. The electorate is too stupid to be trusted.

[alelks]

Originally Posted by abc_123

You know, Al I do not live in DC, but if I did, I would go. It was a big step for me, but now I do write to my congressmen/senators. It's the least that I can do. 20 yrs ago I never would have thought of doing that but now I realize that I must participate in the political process to at least counteract one one other dumb ass in this country.

Term limits are the only way out of this. The electorate is too stupid to be trusted.

We will be organizing by region and state also to march on our elected officials throughout the year.