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Old 10-17-2013, 22:48   #16
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Old 10-18-2013, 00:39   #17
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:20   #18
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The "skill sets" you speak of comes with years of real training. These are skill sets you're not going to learn by watching the morons on the Discovery Channel. You want to learn to shoot like a Green Beret, take lessons from a Green Beret, you want to shoot like a cop, take lessons from a cop. One shoots offensively the other shoots defensively, you choose. My point is I don't think you even know what you're asking for as far as a skill set goes. What is it you want to survive? How do you wish to "defend" your family? Moving to a small town in South Dakota is a great start on defending your family, moving to South Chicago is not.

Situational awareness is a skill set that most Special Forces soldiers are born with and develop with years in Special Forces. It's not an easy skill set to teach.

You been answered by a dozen real Special Forces soldiers, try and figure out why they said what they said.

We've risked our lives for our skill sets and along the way some have fallen and got back up, some have not.

If you want to run with the big dogs, fine, have a go, if not there's always the Discovery Channel and its survival idiots.
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:37   #19
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Thank you guys for taking time out of your day to reply. I really appreciate it. I think you guys are cool as hell too.

Do you know of any long term survival classes? Hell maybe even something to do with hunting might help with the survival aspects?

I am getting my concealed soon, one of my uncle's friends is retired-SF. He does the certification and wants to start teaching some advanced classes so I'm going to go talk to him soon.

Unless I completely change my career goals after I graduate I don't see myself joining and being privileged to train as well or as hard as you guys did. It's not that I don't think I could if I devoted myself to it, it's just that I don't think I'm going to devote myself to it. I respect you guys more than the attitude in my posts will ever show.

So, maybe this isn't the place to ask, but I thought if anyone knew of a some classes a civilian could take, it would be this community.

I'm asking here because although I will never be able to actually train similar to the SF unless I were to DO it, I know there are plenty of really bad fakes, like the morons on discovery channel, who will as you guys said, scam me out of my hard earned dollars.

However, it's my hope that there are SOME land nav, foraging, shooting, and tracking classes, and anything else you guys might suggest, to be a more prepared citizen.

Again, I know nothing is the substitute for real experience as you have, but that's not to say that training, even from a civilian standpoint, isn't important.

Thank you guys again for taking time to give advice to a nobody like me.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:07   #20
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.....However, it's my hope that there are SOME land nav, foraging, shooting, and tracking classes, and anything else you guys might suggest, to be a more prepared citizen.......
I'll give one last shot about what we know and what you're asking to learn - and I'll keep it pretty low speed - something you can relate to.

Deals with SURVIVAL.

We survive because thats just part of the job learned over years. Sometimes we end up in what would be a survival situation for most but for us it's just a night or two of SUCK. In fact we wouldn't even consider it survival.

Now you can go off on some adventure land survival course and learn a lot about shelters, making fire and catching food- but did you ever "LEARN" anything about survival?

The first rule is "Don't place yourself in a Survival situation". Most place themselves in that situation. The missteps continue to cascade until they are dead or are found.

You may know how to built a fancy bush shelter and rub two sticks together to get fire but if you keep walking until after sunset because it's raining and you think you'll get out - you'll end up with no shelter, no fire and hugging a tree to keep warm.

It's just not the same...
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:53   #21
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Now you can go off on some adventure land survival course and learn a lot about shelters, making fire and catching food- but did you ever "LEARN" anything about survival?

It's just not the same...

Okay great. Another passive aggressive insult. You tell me that I am the one who needs slow speed? How many times have I said I understand it won't be the same as what you go through?

I GET IT.

Do you know of any SPECIFIC "adventure land survival course(s)" that teach sound information?

I might not LEARN about survival in the military sense and attitude but I might be better prepared than I am now. Which is my point.

Jesus Christ sorry I asked.
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:02   #22
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:21   #23
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:38   #24
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Silentium, experts have calculated your survival time and have agreed it will be short lived.

Your "skin" is too thin to run with the big dogs and you cannot take advice from seasoned combat veterans. Your mouth is writing checks your ass cannot cash and when faced with a dangerous situation your mouth will get you in deep water very fast. Learn to control your emotions or they will control you.

And, never, never piss into the wind, step on Superman's cape, or argue with a Special Forces Sergeant Major.
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