McCain opposes Syria strike resolution

[MR2]

Another perspective...

[glebo]

Oh boy....heeeere we goooo

Obumbles gets even deeper

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...-syria-threat/


PUTIN GREETS OBAMA WITH SYRIA THREAT - President Obama arrived in Russia today to find the already failing relations with his host in even worse condition. Russian President Vladimir Putin’s threat to provide his Syrian allies with a missile shield in the event of U.S. air strikes further complicates Obama’s flagging effort to win international support for an attack on Damascus. As the Guardian reports, Putin’s warning that an attack without UN backing would provoke military aid from Russia may drive away the handful of international partners for Obama’s proposed attack

[BryanK]

Originally Posted by Go Devil

...Remember, there is a man in California serving time for instigating the attacks in Bengazi.

He's out now, but remains supervised. Apparently he was jailed due to probation violations as opposed to the movie itself. The highlighted text in the following article snip explains it a bit.

Daily Caller link

Snip:

...Nakoula, who had prior felony convictions on drug and bank fraud charges, was on probation when he made the trailer. Following the Benghazi debacle, the Obama administration claimed the film had incited the attack, and Nakoula was arrested and returned to prison for violating probation terms that prohibited him from using an alias (he had gone by “Sam Bacile” in making the film) or using the Internet without prior approval.

As to the topic at hand, I think McCain may have something up his sleeve.

[JHD]

Situations like this is one big reason I would love to see a requirement of military service for POTUS, VPOTUS, and Speaker. These guys are all in way over their heads. They either don't understand or don't care allowing this situation to get out of hand could turn into WWIII (big oops).

And in spite of the majority of the American public being against any action in Syria, I think POTUS will proceed anyway. I hope and pray not, and that he finds the common sense he is currently lacking in this situation.

[SF-TX]

Originally Posted by DocIllinois

What is the analogy here? A strike on Syria would destabilize the region enough to cause widespread warfare?

Whether or not you put 'boots on the ground', is an air strike on a sovereign nation considered an act of war? The Secretary of State is of the opinion it is not. I think it depends on your perspective, whether or not you are on the receiving end.

[miclo18d]

War-------------------Reason for entering

WWII-----------------Attacked by Japan, Germany declared war on us

Korea-----------------NK invaded SK our ally, Stop spread of communism

Vietnam--------------NV supported insurgency in SV, Stop spread of communism

Desert Storm--------Iraq invaded an ally, oil

Afghanistan----------Afghanistan harbored a fugitive that attacked the US

Iraq------------------Regime Change, Evidence of WMDs, Ooooops

Syria-----------------Help Al Queda, Evidence of WMDs.....wait.....wah?

[miclo18d]

Originally Posted by SF-TX

Whether or not you put 'boots on the ground', is an air strike on a sovereign nation considered an act of war? The Secretary of State is of the opinion it is not. I think it depends on your perspective, whether or not you are on the receiving end.

It's not an act of war when your opponent can't shoot missiles back at you I guess.

[Pete]

Lions become sheep - sheep become lions......

And the wolf laid the lamb....

Laid the lamb??? WTF?

[MR2]

No boots on the ground? Anyone ever heard of Scott O'Grady? With this administration - at this point, what does it matter now anyways?

[Go Devil]

Originally Posted by BryanK

He's out now, but remains supervised. Apparently he was jailed due to probation violations as opposed to the movie itself. The highlighted text in the following article snip explains it a bit.

Daily Caller link

Snip:



As to the topic at hand, I think McCain may have something up his sleeve.

He was jailed because the State Department pulled a lie out of their ass. The lie being that anti-Islamic rhetoric caused the death of Americans and contributed to instability in the region.

If these culpable departments are willing to flagrantly lie about the killings and justify their actions by stonewalling Congress, what are they covering and lying about here?

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by BryanK

He's out now, but remains supervised. Apparently he was jailed due to probation violations as opposed to the movie itself. The highlighted text in the following article snip explains it a bit.

Daily Caller link
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http://professionalsoldiers.com/foru...6&postcount=29

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula deserves a place in American history. He is the first person in this country jailed for violating Islamic anti-blasphemy laws.

You won’t find that anywhere in the charges against him, of course. As a practical matter, though, everyone knows that Nakoula wouldn’t be in jail today if he hadn’t produced a video crudely lampooning the prophet Muhammad.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2TkcVR4nR

A violation of probation, though, usually produces a court summons and doesn’t typically lead to more jail time unless it involves an offense that would be worth prosecuting in its own right under federal standards. Not for Nakoula.

This wasn’t a case of nailing Al Capone on tax evasion. As Nina Shea of the Hudson Institute points out, Al Capone’s underlying offense was racketeering and gangland killings. Nakoula Basseley Nakoula’s underlying offense wasn’t an underlying offense. He exercised his First Amendment rights.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2TkcdfwrH

[Surgicalcric]

Originally Posted by Go Devil

He was jailed because the State Department pulled a lie out of their ass. The lie being that anti-Islamic rhetoric caused the death of Americans and contributed to instability in the region...

So much for the 1st Amendment.

[Badger52]

His killer-quote is, of course, fodder for the make-your-own Dufflel Blog style posters going around.

“We certainly don’t have a dog in the fight,” Cruz said, calling it a civil war in Syria. “We should be focused on defending the United States of America. That’s why young men and women sign up to join the military, not to, as you know, serve as Al Qaeda’s air force.”

And one more snippet:

“I’ll give you one of the simplest principles of foreign policy that we ought to be following," Cruz said. "Don’t give weapons to people who hate you. Don’t give weapons to people who want to kill you."

LINK to full article.

[kgoerz]

Vietnam--------------NV supported insurgency in SV, Stop spread of communism

Think Vietnam needs a big oooops also. Right up there with Iraq. History will show Iraq to be the single biggest blunder/lie America ever executed. The Gulf of Tonkin was a fabricated incident that gave the president authorization to commit troops to Vietnam, without approval from congress.
As far as McCain goes. Another example of everything that is wrong with our political system. Until we vote these worthless leaders out of office nothing will change.
He couldn't pay attention in a 3.5 hour hearing that included breaks. Then he joked about it. If he worked for me, he would of been fired.

[MR2]

Interesting how Obama wants to avenge the deaths of a bunch of Muslims in Syria, but not the death of Americans in Benghazi.