Secession - Page 2

DunbarFC · 11-10-2004, 13:53

The winning here in Boston has been epic

I've even had some friends who are not so liberal go over the edge into madness when I brought up the election

And I hear that somewhere in Florida Democrats are seeing a shrink to deal with the loss ?

- A blue stater who wishes he was red

Sacamuelas · 11-10-2004, 14:32

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Originally Posted by DunbarFC

The winning here in Boston has been epic

Dude, the guy from boston Lost the election. Now tell your buds to quit their whining and move on.

Damn yankee Libs are in such denial.

DunbarFC · 11-10-2004, 14:44

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Originally Posted by Sacamuelas

Dude, the guy from boston Lost the election. Now tell your buds to quit their whining and move on.

Damn yankee Libs are in such denial.

You have no idea the depths of the denial

Honest to good one of my friends who I have known since high school now refuses to speak to me because I'm a Republican

I told in that case she's isn't coming to the Innaguration with me

**The Reaper** · 11-10-2004, 15:06

On America Left the other day, the libs were whining that since the voting results did not match the exit polls, there must be fraud with the votes.

Obviously, they missed the class where logic was explained. If your estimate or hypothesis is disproven by the data, then it was wrong. We do not change the voting data to match the exit polls, no matter how much they wish it were so.

What a bunch of wacko crybabies!

TR

Bravo1-3 · 11-10-2004, 15:09

The whiners know no bounds. The "Letters to the Editor" in our local newspaper (which oddly enough endorsed Bush) have been priceless. Our newspaper has a policy of publishing ALL letters that are in good taste, so it's always a great read. As of late, it's been getting more entertaining than ever with people talking about how listless and depressed they are.

I'm going to wait to see how it pans out before I write a letter that tells them to quit snivelling, FIDO, and Move Out and Draw Fire.

Doc · 11-10-2004, 16:05

October 10th was World Mental Health Day. It should have been moved to November 3rd in view of the utter calamity and chaos we abound in.

A short tutorial for those interested. This process can be as short as two minutes for Type A's or four years or longer for liberals. You and you alone determine how long life's struggles will dominate your life.

The grieving process.

Denial

Anger

Bargaining

Depression

Acceptance

I'm Doc and I approved this message.

Jo Sul · 11-10-2004, 16:10

You left out a few:

bitching

whining

complaining

Doc · 11-10-2004, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Jo Sul

You left out a few:

bitching

whining

complaining

LMAO!

**Airbornelawyer** · 11-10-2004, 17:03

Getting back to the original topic, rather than the general sniveling (snivelling?) of those who lost, the "secession" idea is priceless in its idiocy.

First, it is at its root a statement of the utter contempt liberal so-called "intellectuals" have for anyone too dumb to follow their lead. Not only are you not enlightened enough to appreciate their superior ideas, you are not worthy of their company. But unlike Alec Baldwin and this obnoxious lawyer down the hall from me, it's not enough to talk about leaving the country; you have to take the country with you, or at least the "good" part.

But consider also NDD's quoted text: "one top Democrat says, 'The segment of the country that pays for the federal government is now being governed by the people who don't pay for the federal government.'" So now the Democrats are opposed to redistribution of wealth? Will they now support a flat tax, since progressive taxation means that a majority of lower income voters elect those who tax a minority of higher income voters? (In case you were wondering, the top 1% of taxpayers pay 33.7% of taxes, the top 10% pay 65.7% and the top 25% pay 83.9%). The Democrats for years have postured as the party of the little guy against the fat cat Republicans and their tax breaks for millionaires. Now that the little guys elected the wrong party, some Democrats are saying "fuck the little guys! let's take our fat cat states somewhere else." The hypocrisy is mind-boggling.

Finally, of course, there is the breakdown behind the blue state/red state thing. The secessionists want to claim that their states are footing the bills for the red states, but as noted, the bill is not footed by regions, but by income. Those making over $50,000 per year supported Bush 56% to 43%. Those making over $100,000 supported Bush 58% to 41%. So maybe the GOP is the party of the fat cats, at least if a truckdriver and his schoolteacher wife who together make over $50,000 are fat cats.

The particular truckdriver/schoolteacher combo I'm thinking of are a little on the heavy side, but they seem happy with that. They also live in upstate New York. So do a lot of Republicans and others who voted for Bush. And I bet they represent a disproportionate source of all that tax money the blue states are feeding to Washington's teats for the red states to suckle on.

The utter idiocy of this secessionist talk is the contradiction described above - so-called liberal Democrats arguing that political power should be proportionate to how much or how little money one contributes to the government. If votes were weighed based on how much one paid in taxes, or if the franchise were taken away from welfare recipients or anyone who receives more from the government than he contributes, what are the odds that a Democrat would get elected to any position more reponsible than city dogcatcher?

BTW, if the blue states want to secede, presumably the red counties will get to secede from the blue states? Below is New York's county-by-county breakdown, showing GOP strength in both wealthy suburbs and poorer rural areas, while the Dems are confined to urban areas, the college town of Ithaca and the border with Quebec (where voters get much of their news from Montreal).

**Airbornelawyer** · 11-10-2004, 17:07

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Now that the little guys elected the wrong party, some Democrats are saying "fuck the little guys! let's take our fat cat states somewhere else."

That'd be this guy, BTW:

**Airbornelawyer** · 11-10-2004, 21:14

Same goes for Maryland and Michigan and Washington. If the blue counties want to make their own liberal paradise, fine, but we keep the red ones.

**The Reaper** · 11-10-2004, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer

That'd be this guy, BTW:

Nothing wrong with him that a nice cold bitch slap of reality (like Boot Training at Parris Island) wouldn't cure.

TR

**Razor** · 11-10-2004, 22:41

AL, where'd you find those by-state county maps?

Guy · 11-11-2004, 09:36

RL,

Wait until you see the Red-vs-Blue in CA. I'm trying to find it now.

**Airbornelawyer** · 11-11-2004, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Razor

AL, where'd you find those by-state county maps?

I made them.