1 Shot, 1000 Yards, Off Hand, 9 Witnesses

Ape Man · 06-02-2013, 09:26

Barrett M107, 1 Shot, 1000 Yards, Off Hand, 9 Witnesses

I know luck was most likely a factor, but it still impressed me. Maybe I would not have been quite as impressed if he used a different gun.

frostfire · 06-02-2013, 10:23

so....master Rick, how many times have you made similar shot few times in a row?

yeah, I want to see it done several times in a row

Sohei · 06-02-2013, 11:50

Regardless of the number of times he has made that shot....

That one was simply -- outstanding.

BryanK · 06-02-2013, 11:57

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Originally Posted by Ape Man

I know luck was most likely a factor, but it still impressed me. Maybe I would not have been quite as impressed if he used a different gun.

I was impressed when the guy who taught me long range shooting rang the 1060 yd plate from the sitting position (no sling, no sticks, no use of the bipod) twice (he only fired 2 rounds) with his .308

longrange1947 · 06-02-2013, 14:20

Really not that difficult. I have done it quite a few times and my avatar is me doing it at Hawthorne. In the mid 80s used the Haskins 50 as a demo gun and fired it standing offhand as well. Have a goodly number of people that have witnessed it as well.

Dragbag036 · 06-02-2013, 16:28

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Really not that difficult. I have done it quite a few times and my avatar is me doing it at Hawthorne. In the mid 80s used the Haskins 50 as a demo gun and fired it standing offhand as well. Have a goodly number of people that have witnessed it as well.

As you would say my friend " that's a trunk slammer". Rick I just picked up a new bolt gun myself.

BryanK · 06-02-2013, 19:58

I've always been curious. The "hold hard guys" part of your sig line LR, to me sounds like you are to stiffen the hold. Is this for wind only? The way I was taught, you try to hold the same time every time semi-loosely (naturally) to ensure consistency of the shot. This is just me, but every time I've shot long range, I've been most successful holding kind of loose.

I'm not trying to sharp shoot, just curious.

TOMAHAWK9521 · 06-02-2013, 20:36

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Originally Posted by BryanK

I've always been curious. The "hold hard guys" part of your sig line LR, to me sounds like you are to stiffen the hold. Is this for wind only? The way I was taught, you try to hold the same time every time semi-loosely (naturally) to ensure consistency of the shot. This is just me, but every time I've shot long range, I've been most successful holding kind of loose.

I'm not trying to sharp shoot, just curious.

I was taught that way as well....Until I picked up a .338 Lapua. Sure, I may be a wuss here, but I've learned to adopt a tighter hold with the larger/hotter cartridges. Assuming that that semi-loose posture with a .338 Lapua or 300 RUM and it feels reminiscent of a mule kicking you in the eye/face. Bad positioning behind the gun will also get you. I dropped an elk up on the side of a mountain from a bad position and it earned me an Indian beauty mark in my forehead for my stupidity.

longrange1947 · 06-03-2013, 10:32

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Originally Posted by BryanK

I've always been curious. The "hold hard guys" part of your sig line LR, to me sounds like you are to stiffen the hold. Is this for wind only? The way I was taught, you try to hold the same time every time semi-loosely (naturally) to ensure consistency of the shot. This is just me, but every time I've shot long range, I've been most successful holding kind of loose.

I'm not trying to sharp shoot, just curious.

Hold Hard is a quote from a Marine CPT when they were out numbered. As the Japanese advanced on them at range, he told his troops to Hold Hard, (Steady) or it would be a long night.

On holding the weapon, the weapon needs to be held firmly into the shoulder and the weight of the head rested on the stock of the weapon. This reduces recoil movement of the weapon and allows your body to absorb that recoil. It allows the shooter to sense his shot placement and permits a rapid follow on shot. Many advocate pushing hard into the tripod to "load the tripod", I am not an advocate of that as it can only be accomplished in some shooting situations. That means you must change your technique as the situation changes. I prefer to keep my bipod neutral and maintain good head weight on the stock. This can be accomplished in all situations. It also allows for recoil reduction and shot follow on shot placement.

In standing off hand, it is important to bring the weapon to your head and set your jaw line on the top of the stock. Maintain good steady pressure into your should wiht your shooting hand but using only the middle and ring finger, not the little finger. This sets up a steadier and repeatable position while "reaching" for he stock means as your neck gets tired you will change your body position. One thing about shooting is that you must be consistent.

My thoughts on the subject.

Papa Zero Three · 06-02-2013, 20:27

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Really not that difficult. I have done it quite a few times and my avatar is me doing it at Hawthorne. In the mid 80s used the Haskins 50 as a demo gun and fired it standing offhand as well. Have a goodly number of people that have witnessed it as well.

I'm glad you said this as I didn't find it as impressive as others do. If anything, holding that much weight is a testament to good technique. For a 50 cal, that distance isn't a big deal IMO, most of the guys on my team did this on targets much farther during a PMT.

Ramirez · 06-04-2013, 05:35

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Originally Posted by Papa Zero Three

I'm glad you said this as I didn't find it as impressive as others do. If anything, holding that much weight is a testament to good technique. For a 50 cal, that distance isn't a big deal IMO, most of the guys on my team did this on targets much farther during a PMT.

1000 yards IMO is not the feat here. It's with a 2 MOA rifle and standing as it's a 38lb rifle. While it's not the most amazing shot in the world, I think it's a well done video, and even the shooter said. "it's just goofing around" Chase Stroud for Team GAP did a standing 1000 yard shot the other day on a smaller target w/ a smaller caliber. I think 6mm Creedmoor. I'll see if I can find the video.

My LR rifle is 17lbs, and I practice shooting it off hand at 400 yards at some steel tanks. It's not easy, but I'm practicing more and more at it.

I guess what I'm saying is, it's a cool video, and the shooter was not trying to be a showoff IMO.

disclaimer

non military guy here, I just shoot long range a lot and compete in matches.

longrange1947 · 06-04-2013, 07:33

Shooting off hand at longer range is more of a mind game than many realize. If your mind tells you that it is difficult then you will jerk the trigger and miss. Know your sight picture, let the rifle settle, and "rapidly SQUEEZE" the shot off. No jerk, just a rapid squeeze that some, including myself call a command detonation. This usually done in conjunction with an interrupted trigger squeeze to get the trigger "set".

Holding the Barret in the standing off hand is not hard. It is balanced on the mag and as you can see in my avatar, I let the mag rest on my palm very similar to an offhand stop for international shooting. The weapon is actually more pleasant to shoot in the offhand as the back blast and recoil is less, as is the over pressure, no ground to bounce it back at you.

Dusty · 06-04-2013, 08:20

I had two witnesses for this; one is dead.

I shot a steel plate at 640 yards (UD) offhand with my .308, then I shot it from the prone without looking at the target.

I'm serious as a heart attack.

Nyaah nyaah na nyaah nyaah.

mark46th · 06-04-2013, 09:57

"Cost per round will take your breath away!" Longrange1947

100 pieces of Lapua .338 brass- $289.00
100 Sierra Matchking 300gr bullets- $76.00 or 100 Barnes lead-free 285gr TSX bullets if you are in Condor Country- $82.00
1 Lb Retumbo Powder- $30.00

Or you can buy 20 rounds for about $130.00.
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