01-05-2013, 09:52
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If the round was a Sierra Match King they recommend not using this round for hunting because it doesn't have the expansion of a softer hunting round. See sierra loading manual 5th Edition. Also, if there was residual oil or solvent in the barrel and it was a cold bore shot the point of impact could be affected. A patch run through the barrel with denatured alcohol usually eliminates any residual solvents or oils in the barrel. 175 gr are less effective at shorter ranges out to 300 yds, they are usually used for longer range shooting due to the stability of the heavier round. 168 gr is often used for the shorter ranges and hunting. Hope this helps. Good Hunting!
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01-05-2013, 10:20
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Originally Posted by Stiletto11
If the round was a Sierra Match King they recommend not using this round for hunting because it doesn't have the expansion of a softer hunting round. See sierra loading manual 5th Edition. Also, if there was residual oil or solvent in the barrel and it was a cold bore shot the point of impact could be affected. A patch run through the barrel with denatured alcohol usually eliminates any residual solvents or oils in the barrel. 175 gr are less effective at shorter ranges out to 300 yds, they are usually used for longer range shooting due to the stability of the heavier round. 168 gr is often used for the shorter ranges and hunting. Hope this helps. Good Hunting!
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All you need to do is get some good 150 gr HP or Silvertip bullets and change your dope to kill anything in the state. As long as the gun will keep the round within MOF.
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01-05-2013, 23:51
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Again, Tx to all who are interested in improving/educating/advancing/ the collective experience of this forum.
As previously stated, I checked the tree with a skewer and sure enough it hit something metallic. The tree did close up around the entrance hole, which the inexperienced cannot know. And I must admit, being a tree hugger that I had some reservation zeroing on the tree in the first place, but should have researched what my outcome could be and what result to expect, I should have known what was stated here as fact before pulling the trigger.
That said, I think there is a business opportunity here for those interested in conducting a clinic for those unfortunate souls like myself, who could benefit from your collective experience. I truly want to take the short and long shot, but realize the constraints of experience, and as Peregrino stated, the importance of a humane harvest, is paramount to all other consideration.
What is the correct round to use, especially for those like myself who do not load their own rounds and must relied on commercial manufacturing, what is the correct match, generically, for gun, game, food on the table?
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01-06-2013, 10:24
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Again, Tx to all who are interested in improving/educating/advancing/ the collective experience of this forum.
As previously stated, I checked the tree with a skewer and sure enough it hit something metallic. The tree did close up around the entrance hole, which the inexperienced cannot know. And I must admit, being a tree hugger that I had some reservation zeroing on the tree in the first place, but should have researched what my outcome could be and what result to expect, I should have known what was stated here as fact before pulling the trigger.
That said, I think there is a business opportunity here for those interested in conducting a clinic for those unfortunate souls like myself, who could benefit from your collective experience. I truly want to take the short and long shot, but realize the constraints of experience, and as Peregrino stated, the importance of a humane harvest, is paramount to all other consideration.
What is the correct round to use, especially for those like myself who do not load their own rounds and must relied on commercial manufacturing, what is the correct match, generically, for gun, game, food on the table?
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Different rounds for different game, amigo.
What game do you want to take?
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01-06-2013, 13:10
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175 gr SMK
Start with this: Federal Premium® Vital-Shok® - .308 Win. 165gr Sierra GameKing BTSP, go to a range (not a tree) and zero your weapon at 100yds. Your group of three rounds down range should all fall in a one inch circle to be 1 MOA. There's plenty of information available to you if you have the desire to learn this stuff you just have to be willing to do the research. Like the Reaper said, different rounds and loads for different game. Best.
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01-06-2013, 21:38
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TR. Deer, (if I ever get a tag Elk,) Antelope, and Wild Boar.
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01-07-2013, 06:15
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From my limited experience (long range is a relatively new hobby), for paper targets go for the factory 175gr Federal Gold Medal Match (Sierra match kings). For a medium-sized game hunting round, use the 150gr Federal Vital-Shok Ballistic Tip. However, you should try to get ahold of the 180gr Federal vital-shok's (NP) for similar trajectory of the 175gr Sierra's for taking game. The 150gr weren't that far off target @ 300yds, but any further distance or gusty wind would probably throw it off track. I've never shot an elk, but anything over 165gr should work.
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01-07-2013, 18:32
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You obviously didn't read the above thread regarding the Sierra Match King round.
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01-07-2013, 22:54
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The bullet (Federal .308 Win Hi Shok Soft Point) placement knocked this deer down in mid stride. It was walking across the field from R > L. I had a broadside shot, but not knowing what the bullet would do, not wanting to hit bone on the way in, I did not want to look for a wounded animal. So I tracked it a bit to the left, when I felt I had a clear sweet spot strike, I squeezed the trigger. The deer feel to the ground, kicked its leg once, or twice, and then stopped all movement.
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01-08-2013, 06:05
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Congratulations on a nice deer Penn! Good shooting
@Stiletto11:
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You obviously didn't read the above thread regarding the Sierra Match King round.
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I can see how you could read that, but actually I just expounded on your post a bit. You spoke of the 165 GameKing, not the Partitions or the Ballistic tips.
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01-08-2013, 07:42
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Midway's having a e-blast sale on life-sized fungus targets...
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01-10-2013, 17:14
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Like everything else they are "SOLD OUT." You can back order if you like and we won't charge your credit card til they ship.
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