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IAW the 'Laws of the Land' (US Constitution), he can only do what the Legislative body allows - the House of Representatives in the case of the military and the Senate in the case of any treaty agreements - and, based on what occurred during the various SALT/CFE/WHNS negotiations and the situation since, I do not see them or Russia following along with much more of anything when it comes to US-RUS missile defense issues.
Personally, based upon my experiences at the AmEmbassy with such realpolitik talking among US-USSR-EU diplomatic negotiators, I think the POTUS' statement is more along the lines of an open-ended stall of we're wasting our time and, realisitcally, should wait to continue any such talks until after the upcoming elections because we're not interested in changing anything and in helping y'all appear to still be a peer on today's world stage. FWIW - we used to refer to the various on-going treaty talks as "Happy to Glad" wordsmith sessions.
I'll reserve my worries for a time when I think there's actually something to worry about.
And so it goes...
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03-27-2012, 06:31
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I'll reserve my worries for a time when I think there's actually something to worry about.
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That's what the grasshopper did.
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03-27-2012, 07:05
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That's what the grasshopper did.
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To do nothing is sometimes a good remedy. 
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“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
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03-27-2012, 07:08
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You know, aside from shooting hoops, playing golf, burning up a lot of fuel on vacations and of course the time he spent killing Bin Laden... Obama has been campaigning for a good portion of the last 3-3 1/2 years as well.
What he may have meant If he gets 4 more years the campaigning will end and it would allow him more flexibility in his schedule to pal around with Putin and Medvedev.
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03-27-2012, 07:11
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Well, in this case, there's really nothing that can be done-other than try to make those blinded by the BS of the White House-controlled news agencies aware of the chicanery and push for new leadership in order to save the Country from Marxism.
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03-27-2012, 07:13
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A useful bit of advice - never take a front row seat at a bris.
And so it goes...
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03-27-2012, 07:17
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A useful bit of advice - never take a front row seat at a bris.
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Oy, vey. Thanks for the tip.
"Times is hard. Times is real hard." Seneca's character from Crossroads.
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03-27-2012, 09:09
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That should be in pink, Dusty...
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03-27-2012, 09:16
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That should be in pink, Dusty...
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03-27-2012, 09:19
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A useful bit of advice - never take a front row seat at a bris...
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A friend of mine attended and got hit in the eye -- he walks around cock-eyed ever since.
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03-27-2012, 19:12
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IAW the 'Laws of the Land' (US Constitution), he can only do what the Legislative body allows - the House of Representatives in the case of the military and the Senate in the case of any treaty agreements - and, based on what occurred during the various SALT/CFE/WHNS negotiations and the situation since, I do not see them or Russia following along with much more of anything when it comes to US-RUS missile defense issues.
Personally, based upon my experiences at the AmEmbassy with such realpolitik talking among US-USSR-EU diplomatic negotiators, I think the POTUS' statement is more along the lines of an open-ended stall of we're wasting our time and, realisitcally, should wait to continue any such talks until after the upcoming elections because we're not interested in changing anything and in helping y'all appear to still be a peer on today's world stage. FWIW - we used to refer to the various on-going treaty talks as "Happy to Glad" wordsmith sessions.
I'll reserve my worries for a time when I think there's actually something to worry about.
And so it goes...
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Can you say Executive Order?
IIRC, the Senate ratifies treaties and is still dominated by the Dims, last I heard.
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03-27-2012, 19:29
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Can you say Executive Order?
IIRC, the Senate ratifies treaties and is still dominated by the Dims, last I heard.
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EO doesn't apply for such matters and it takes a 2/3 majority vote to approve such a treaty.
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