Marine Sergeant Faces Discipline for Facebook Critique of Obama

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Sarski

I offered to give her your number. I think you are next.

I doubt any toothless, redneck hillbillies with the Stars and Bars waving in their front pasture who live over 7 miles from the nearest tower are even on her "B" list, dude.

Originally Posted by Dusty

I doubt any toothless, redneck hillbillies with the Stars and Bars waving in their front pasture who live over 7 miles from the nearest tower are even on her "B" list, dude.

The pasture two miles east of this sign?

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[SPEC4]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Who's "we"? Gotta mouse in your pocket?

I've got a mouse in my hand and am not afraid to use it.



Politicians declare wars, soldiers fight them.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by SPEC4

I've got a mouse in my hand and am not afraid to use it...

...when I've got a nearly empty bottle of Evan Williams in the other.

There, I finished your post for you.

[Dozer523]

Originally Posted by Dusty

[url] " . . . but when you join the military, you give up some of your rights," Rogers added.

I realize I'm joining this conversation a little late but . . .
WHEN EXACTLY, did I sign over ANY of my rights?
I thought when I raised my hand I accepted the honor of dying for OUR rights. Well I did swear to defend the Constitution. I didn't say anything about "except for me."

In my civilian job I could post what a this or that my boss is (not that he is . . . he's an overflowing cup filled with with the creame of human dignity, he's CPT Lincoln Stern) but if I did he would be well within his rights to let me go. (maybe, not out an airlock but. . . ) That was the best part of a great movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHgMsvpFm08

[tom kelly]

Originally Posted by CSB

I'm not a weather forecaster, but I would predict a shit storm after any Marine posts a Facebook entry stating he would not obey the orders of the President.

The Marine weather forecaster not obeying orders is the least of our worries. Let's imagine the programers who wrote the code for the STUXNEX virus want to write a code to launch nuclear missles or write a code to overide a launch sequence....This type of info tech coding has been around for 10-12 years. Now it's out there in the public domain...Let's just worry about the Marine weather forecaster and the Air Force Sgt. who posed for Playboy Magazine. The important stuff....TK

[Dusty]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...04-05-17-14-19



CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) -- A military board has recommended dismissal for a Marine sergeant who criticized President Barack Obama on his Facebook page, including allegedly putting the president's face on a "Jackass" movie poster.

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[Guymullins]

Originally Posted by Dusty

This guy is obviously a publicity hound. He'll prolly wind up making more money from the nororiety than he would by staying in.

The cold, hard fact will always remain that Obama, however incompetent he's judged to be, still holds the office of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. You may think the man holding the office is a sack of maggoty dung from a thrice-accursed, syphillitic hyena, but you still gotta take a bullet for the office.

Er...Spotted Hyena, the Brown one is quite innocuous, doent have that cackling laugh and is quite shy and mostly nocturnal.

[stfesta]

As an active duty Soldier, I have to respect the office. It does not matter what I think about the individual man.

Look at it this way, ever have a 1SG or a CSM that you thought didn't deserve the job? Of course you did.....we all have. What would happen if you showed that 1SG or CSM disrespect? He would smoke the living shit out of you, and you would deserve it.

You may not respect me but, you WILL respect my rank.

If this Marine gets the book thrown at him, he only has himself to blame.

Anyone remember the Clinton years? Fort Bragg was a ghost town. They were offering a 20 year retirement at 15. They were throwing people out left and right. Those times are going to return. With all the budget cuts that we are about to face, staying in is going to be a hard task.
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[Dusty]

Originally Posted by stfesta

Anyone remember the Clinton years? Fort Bragg was a ghost town. They were offering a 20 year retirement at 15. They were throwing people out left and right. Those times are going to return. With all the budget cuts that we are about to face, staying in is going to be a hard task.
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'til the next Republican POTUS.

[Sigaba]

In 1874, General W.T. Sherman offered his view of professional soldiers getting involved in politics in a letter to his brother, John.

Don't ever give any person the least encouragement to think I can be used for political ends. I have seen it poison so many otherwise good characters, that I am really more obstinate than ever.... Let those who are trained to it keep the office, and keep the Army and Navy as free from politics as possible.*

In 1898, General John Schofeld used his memoirs to make clear his view on civil military relations.

[A] "free people" have nothing to fear from their army... the soldiers are ...among the most devoted and loyal citizens of the republic, and thoroughly imbued with the fundamental principle of subordination of the military to the civil power.**

MOO, in the years to come, the American professions of arms would do well to consider Sherman's and Schofeld's views, regardless of who is president or which political party has the upper hand.

My $0.02. YMMV.

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* W.T. Sherman to John Sherman, 28 August 1874 as printed in Rachel Sherman Thorndike, ed., The Sherman Letters: Correspondence Between General Sherman and Senator Sherman from 1837 to 1891, The American Scene: Comments and Commentators (A Da Capo Press Reprint Series), Wallace D. Farnham, general editor (New York: Da Capo Press, 1969), 340.
** John M. Schofield, Forty-Six Years in the Army (New York: The Century Company, 1898), 420-421.

[stfesta]

IF the president doesn't get re-elected. Thats a big IF. The American people need to wake up and see what is happening to this county.

If PBO puts on the type of campaign he did last election, he will get re-elected.

Let's face it, none of the republican candidates are stellar. I wish they weren't so McCain like.
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[Dusty]

Originally Posted by stfesta

IF the president doesn't get re-elected. Thats a big IF. The American people need to wake up and see what is happening to this county.

If PBO puts on the type of campaign he did last election, he will get re-elected.

Let's face it, none of the republican candidates are stellar. I wish they weren't so McCain like.
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Bro, I really don't think he will get re-elected, as long as it's fair. There's your big "if".

[alright4u]

Originally Posted by CSB

I'm not a weather forecaster, but I would predict a shit storm after any Marine posts a Facebook entry stating he would not obey the orders of the President.

When in uniform shut mouth about politics. I recall CCS late 68 ,it may have still been Omega in late 68, and a number of us had absentee ballots. None of us cared about anything except more bombs. That is why we voted for Lemay and Wallace.


Wallace was not our hero. We just needed bombs and especially TAC AIR of any kind on our Daniel Boone OPS.

[alright4u]

Originally Posted by SPEC4

That's what we said about Nixon !!!

Charlie really dispised those in the 6th Group who got all the training and never went to the 5th or SOG. I can hear him yelling-"They are smoking dope or doing drugs in our barracks." He was the Bull Simons of SF NCO's. I was damn proud to serve with him. He just saw certain SF MOS's taking too much time to qualify men and still send them to RVN.