A Second Constitutional Convention

[Dusty]

Maybe we should just skip voting this year until the leadership gets this all sorted out.

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by PRB

Sigba, you may be a great guy but I suspect at some point I'd just punch your ass out

I know exactly what you mean.......

Big Teddy

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by mojaveman

The Second Ammendment should be jettisoned?

Mr. Sweeny there is going to make himself a lot of enemies.

Hamilton, among others, fought a hard battle between Articles and a ratified (i.e., "sold to the buyers") Constitution. He was leery of a Bill of Rights in the first place for 2 reasons:

- the very "listing" of a right on a list potentially made it vulnerable to "reasonable regulation" (in whose eyes?) and the subsequent screwing with it from its intent, OR,
- the existence of something on a list opened the door to its continual expansion to the point where anything anyone wanted to do became "my right."

His view was that the very small list of stuff the Guv is allowed to do was already in the Constitution. "If it ain't there, hands off." Example: No reason to list rights of the press; Big G doesn't have the power to regulate them anyway - should be non-issue. Cowards let the G grow too big a very long time ago. Ol' Alexander looks pretty prescient lookin' back... he just might've been on to something.

Nowadays if someone has to eat their veggies or do their homework, someone's getting their rights violated. Criminy.


I imagine a similar process were this farce to be carried through and, given the current weak-kneed constitution of many Americans, may the best spin-doctor win.

[Destrier]

'In light of this week’s tragic shootings at a high school in Ohio, it should be clear to any logical observer that the Second Amendment serves no meaningful purpose in the 21st century." (written by some numnut)


I did not hear of any firearms being on the scene in Ohio except the kid doing the shooting.

Maybe if the writer cannot find a meaningful purpose in the 2nd Amendment, perhaps he is not doing it right.

[tonyz]

As the Battle of Athens illustrates that the 2A can assist with state and local matters as well as federal matters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=U5ut6yPrObw#!

The Battle Of Athens

Lones Seiber

February/march 1985. | Volume 36, Issue 2


The GIs came home to find that a political machine had taken over their Tennessee county. What they did about it astounded the nation.

http://www.americanheritage.com/content/battle-athens

Excerpt:
In McMinn County, Tennessee, in the early 1940s, the question was not if you farmed, but where you farmed. Athens, the county seat, lay between Knoxville and Chattanooga along U.S. Highway 11, which wound its way through eastern Tennessee. This was the meeting place for farmers from all the surrounding communities. Traveling along narrow roads planted with signs urging them to “See Rock City” and “Get Right with God,” they would gather on Saturdays beneath the courthouse elms to discuss politics and crops. There were barely seven thousand people in Athens, and many of its streets were still unpaved. The two “big” cities some fifty miles away had not yet begun their inevitable expansion, and the farmers’ lives were simple and essentially unaffected by what they would have called the “modern world.” Many of them were without electricity. The land, their families, religion, politics, and the war dominated their talk and thoughts. They learned about God from the family Bible and in tiny chapels along yellow-dust roads. Their newspaper, the*Daily Post-Athenian*, told them something of politics and war, but since it chose to avoid intrigue or scandal, a story that smacked of both could be found only in the conversations of the folks who milled about the courthouse lawn on Saturdays.