America's Most Lethal Sniper - Page 2

longrange1947 · 02-21-2012, 07:19

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Originally Posted by Smokin Joe

I'm not trying to start anything here... Seriously, I'm just looking for a little direction. That being said, is his number even probable? I was thinking of picking up the book, but I don't want to waist my time or money on another Marcinko book.

TIA

Yes, it is possible given the situation in certain times and locals.

alright4u · 02-21-2012, 09:20

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Originally Posted by Paslode

Yes indeed

Hell, Ventura is 60 plus years old!

mark46th · 02-21-2012, 10:09

I would think it would be easier to get a count like that in the desert AO ranther than a jungle AO. Hat's off to him, though.

Dohhunter · 02-21-2012, 13:04

For what a random/non MIL public review is worth, the book was a good read. The actual publishing of such a memorandum aside, Kyle presented himself in a humble and straightforward, if somewhat choppy, manner. There was very little gravy editing in this one, and you can tell......Texas FTW.

There were also short excerpts throughout the book from his wife and the effects his deployments/frame of mind affected home life.

There was very little mentioned in the book about actual numbers. He did, however, make constant references to being EXTREMELY lucky behind the scope. Much like deer season for some, engagements seemed to wait until he was glassed.

Paslode · 02-21-2012, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Smokin Joe

I'm not trying to start anything here... Seriously, I'm just looking for a little direction. That being said, is his number even probable? I was thinking of picking up the book, but I don't want to waist my time or money on another Marcinko book.

TIA

It's a okay book, the stories I found interesting, but it didn't have me glued to the pages.

You're welcome to my copy.

longrange1947 · 02-21-2012, 14:55

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Originally Posted by mark46th

I would think it would be easier to get a count like that in the desert AO ranther than a jungle AO. Hat's off to him, though.

Actually, in Falluja, they took the highest building and installed a bunch of Spec Ops snipers, SF, SEAL, and "others". they had a good old time whacking anyone with a weapon for several weeks. It was so bad that the bad guys, during the "truce" asked specifically that the snipers be removed. Same occurred a number of times in different cities but same results. They did not like the snipers.

In the desert, the original sniepr rifles were 7.62 and they learned to stay just out of range, then came the 300, 338 and to a smaller degree the .50. And before any jumps up and says teh .50 got long range kills, understand the vast majority were being shot semi auto at a GROUP of bad guys hitting one after several rounds were fired. Another words, an area target was engaged with a point target eventually hit.

IN all honesty and in full disclosure, I will admit that I am not a fan of the Barrett .50 nor any of that company's products.

Streck-Fu · 02-21-2012, 15:03

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

IN all honesty and in full disclosure, I will admit that I am not a fan of the Barrett .50 nor any of that company's products.

Only since you brought it up...when I was attending the armorer course at Crane, they showed us pictures of a M107 that suffered a failure causing the receiver to rupture upward into the shooter's face. Tore him up pretty well.

I have no idea how common that is.

Iraqgunz · 02-25-2012, 13:36

Longrange,

Would you care to expound on your dislike of Barrett? I'll understand if you choose to keep it to yourself.

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Actually, in Falluja, they took the highest building and installed a bunch of Spec Ops snipers, SF, SEAL, and "others". they had a good old time whacking anyone with a weapon for several weeks. It was so bad that the bad guys, during the "truce" asked specifically that the snipers be removed. Same occurred a number of times in different cities but same results. They did not like the snipers.

In the desert, the original sniepr rifles were 7.62 and they learned to stay just out of range, then came the 300, 338 and to a smaller degree the .50. And before any jumps up and says teh .50 got long range kills, understand the vast majority were being shot semi auto at a GROUP of bad guys hitting one after several rounds were fired. Another words, an area target was engaged with a point target eventually hit.

IN all honesty and in full disclosure, I will admit that I am not a fan of the Barrett .50 nor any of that company's products.

greenberetTFS · 02-25-2012, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Streck-Fu

Only since you brought it up...when I was attending the armorer course at Crane, they showed us pictures of a M107 that suffered a failure causing the receiver to rupture upward into the shooter's face. Tore him up pretty well.

I have no idea how common that is.

What a bitch,when a rifle turns into a Grenade............

Big Teddy

Redshirt · 02-25-2012, 21:18

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Actually, in Falluja, they took the highest building and installed a bunch of Spec Ops snipers, SF, SEAL, and "others". they had a good old time whacking anyone with a weapon for several weeks. It was so bad that the bad guys, during the "truce" asked specifically that the snipers be removed. Same occurred a number of times in different cities but same results. They did not like the snipers.

In the desert, the original sniepr rifles were 7.62 and they learned to stay just out of range, then came the 300, 338 and to a smaller degree the .50. And before any jumps up and says teh .50 got long range kills, understand the vast majority were being shot semi auto at a GROUP of bad guys hitting one after several rounds were fired. Another words, an area target was engaged with a point target eventually hit.

IN all honesty and in full disclosure, I will admit that I am not a fan of the Barrett .50 nor any of that company's products.

There was a controlled water tower that covered half the traffic circles in Mogadishu.

Buffalobob · 02-27-2012, 18:30

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There was a controlled water tower that covered half the traffic circles in Mogadishu.

Rule one: Always set up on the high ground!!!

bjm300 · 04-26-2012, 18:43

Ventura is now suing Chris Kyle for defamation in court. I guess no good deed goes unpunished...

Dusty · 04-26-2012, 18:50

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Originally Posted by Iraqgunz

Longrange,

Would you care to expound on your dislike of Barrett? I'll understand if you choose to keep it to yourself.

They're too heavy and too loud.

I read that book, and I half expected to see a recipe from his wife stuck in there somewhere.

Not to take away from his shootin', though. At least he got in the shit...

longrange1947 · 04-26-2012, 19:24

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Originally Posted by Dusty

They're too heavy and too loud.

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Also not accurate enough, too many failures to feed, extract, move into battery, too expensive and he charged the army to fix his screw ups on the original Barretts that went to Desert Storm.

That's enough for now, MOO, but I got tired of trying to make excuses to students when were shooting them on the range.

Dohhunter · 05-24-2012, 10:23

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Also not accurate enough, too many failures to feed, extract, move into battery, too expensive and he charged the army to fix his screw ups on the original Barretts that went to Desert Storm.

That's enough for now, MOO, but I got tired of trying to make excuses to students when were shooting them on the range.

There's one for sale on gunbroker