Tensions Flare Between US and Pakistan After Strike

[Oldrotorhead]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

Found this news quote in a Fox News article about the incident. Has to be the stupidest quote ever. We need them for peace talks with Warlords.

What? This fine news organization isn't correct? They get their interns from the same Journalism schools as CBS, NBC and CNN. Those same interns write what the teleprompter tells the talking heads to say. Sometimes Al Jazeera tells a more accurate story. Not always but sometimes.

[Pete]

Afghans say commando unit was attacked before airstrike was called on Pakistan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z1

"............Both sides said they believed they were attacking insurgents along the border. A senior Pakistani defense official acknowledged that Pakistani troops fired first, sending a flare, followed by mortar and machine-gun fire, toward what he said was “suspicious activity” in the brush-covered area below their high-altitude outpost barely 500 yards from the border......................"

[Basenshukai]

Originally Posted by Pete

Afghans say commando unit was attacked before airstrike was called on Pakistan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z1

"............Both sides said they believed they were attacking insurgents along the border. A senior Pakistani defense official acknowledged that Pakistani troops fired first, sending a flare, followed by mortar and machine-gun fire, toward what he said was “suspicious activity” in the brush-covered area below their high-altitude outpost barely 500 yards from the border......................"

And the Commandos are being truthful and are correct. And, yes, as soon as fire shot across the border the PAKMIL was consulted and they affirmed that there were no friendlies (I use that term loosely) in the area. The resulting "confusion" is nothing more than PAKMIL doing the wrong thing and getting caugh doing it. Period.

[grigori]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

Or a Paki set up.

This could be true because of all people the Pakistani's want the US out of Afghanistan ASAP.

What the Islamic world doesn't see is that these very PAKMIL,ISI folks helped people like the haqqani's whose actions have led to the death of a lot more American Servicemen that PAKMIL's dead tally seems like a joke.

China will as usual say this shouldn't be done to our allies,this and that shouldn't be done to their sovereignty.

Truth is post Soviet withdrawal in 1989 anti-american sentiments have been very high among'st the Pakistani people.Also due to the exposure of PAKMIL,ISI towards all the radicals from around the world during that period radicalization within the pak army,ISI has always been on the rise.

Recently I read a book titled "Inside the Taliban and Al-Qaeda" by a Pakistani Journalist the Late. Syed Saleem Shahzad.This book is a shocker that exposes the role of the Pakistani military establishment,the ISI,more shocking is how post 9/11 SSG(Pakistani Army SF) personnel are leaving their units and joining groups such as Iliyas Kashmiri's 313 Brigade.The book doesn't seem to be a farce because the journalist was murdered and in a way that everyone including foreign elements pointed fingers towards the ISI for the murder.This book is definitely worth a read.

[blacksmoke]

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/02/wo...html?hpt=wo_c2

How can Pakistani militants and soldiers be in the same vicinity without fighting each other or stopping them? The article says Pak gave permission for a strike 6 miles away. They don't even have GPS so who knows what is located where better? And how is this such a national issue when the groups are killing way more police and military on a much more regular basis?