06-29-2013, 11:17
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Photos go a long way... 
Just because someone on military knifes.com Said so doe not make it true. Several of the people that have commented on this thread were in SF back then in RVN.
I would put more value in your statements if the manufacture documented this and if some SF guys said yeah I remember them being given out back then.
I am not saying you are wrong but what supports your claim...... |
I totally agree. This is similar an ongoing topic on several watch forums regarding Rolex Submariners being issued to U.S. Military divers. The ONLY DOCUMENTED case of Rolex Subs being issued to U.S. Military divers are the prototype Sea Dwellers in the late '60's. There were, however, hundreds of Tudor ( Rolex's "economy" line) Subs issued to divers, primarily Navy, but some others, too. Then there where tons of PX purchase Rolex Subs used. Which has led to the myth of the issue watches. I suspect the " cup and flower fund" may possibly be responsible for the creation of a new military myth. However, anything is possible, it justs needs documentation.
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06-29-2013, 14:06
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I totally agree. This is similar an ongoing topic on several watch forums regarding Rolex Submariners being issued to U.S. Military divers. The ONLY DOCUMENTED case of Rolex Subs being issued to U.S. Military divers are the prototype Sea Dwellers in the late '60's. There were, however, hundreds of Tudor ( Rolex's "economy" line) Subs issued to divers, primarily Navy, but some others, too. Then there where tons of PX purchase Rolex Subs used. Which has led to the myth of the issue watches. I suspect the " cup and flower fund" may possibly be responsible for the creation of a new military myth. However, anything is possible, it justs needs documentation.
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We had the Tudor Submariners (some with a black dial and some with a blue dial) in the 7th Group SCUBA Locker for issue to us on ODAs with a primary dive mission - but we all had our own dive watches and seldom used the Group's MTOE watches because it was always a paperwork pain in the @$$ to do so...depending on who the NCOIC of the locker and Group PBO were at the time.
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06-29-2013, 14:37
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We had the Tudor Submariners (some with a black dial and some with a blue dial) in the 7th Group SCUBA Locker for issue to us on ODAs with a primary dive mission - but we all had our own dive watches and seldom used the Group's MTOE watches because it was always a paperwork pain in the @$$ to do so...depending on who the NCOIC of the locker and Group PBO were at the time.
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And those Tudors with some military documentation ( hand receipt or something similar or photos of it use) go upwards of $5-6K. Cost at the time new was ~ $250. I hope that you managed to "requisition" one, Richard!
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06-30-2013, 11:24
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We had the Tudor Submariners (some with a black dial and some with a blue dial) in the 7th Group SCUBA Locker for issue to us on ODAs with a primary dive mission - but we all had our own dive watches and seldom used the Group's MTOE watches because it was always a paperwork pain in the @$$ to do so...depending on who the NCOIC of the locker and Group PBO were at the time.
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Same for 5th SFG(A) in 79. Ours were actually issued to the dive teams though. On 511 we kept ours in the 1-drawer field safe and they never left the team room. The monthly 10% sensitive items inventories always seemed to include counting watches. Most of us younger guys bought and used Seikos because the Tudors weren't worth the PITA. Personally, after the G-Shocks came out, I went Casio and never looked back.
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07-13-2013, 10:04
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Originally Posted by SF_BHT
Photos go a long way...
Just because someone on military knifes.com Said so doe not make it true. Several of the people that have commented on this thread were in SF back then in RVN.
I would put more value in your statements if the manufacture documented this and if some SF guys said yeah I remember them being given out back then.
I am not saying you are wrong but what supports your claim...... |
Try looking up the reference I gave. Cole book has the info. I also think John Gibson can verify this....
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