08-20-2011, 13:48
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Originally Posted by jw74
My only point with my original post was that I saw the same type of instruction in the martial arts world. People pretending to be teaching mystical skills and presenting themselves as superhuman masters. Much like the growth in shooting schools run by people pretending to be ex-commandos.
I agree that black belt magazine was ridiculous and no, I did not subscribe, but I've read plenty of them.
I taught kempo, not TKD. It was a rewarding job that I held full time for 17 years before I moved on.
PS.com is your house. I offer no disrespect but I'm no bullshit artist.
My apologies for taking the thread off topic.
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There's absolutely no need in my mind for you to apologize, and I don't feel that you have taken the thread off topic to any extent whatsoever, Sensei.
(I did not realize you were from California.)
Bro, there are a few other innocents on this BB who went to Hope Mills to get beat up. 
Go easy on yourself.
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08-20-2011, 15:25
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Overhand grip? Gets back to my buy-more-Viagra comment. 
So, 2 "operators" standing in the doorway preoccupied with handling a perp with weapons down/blocked while an unknown is roaming around inside is what technique? Direct-to-threat or points of domination?
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08-20-2011, 15:34
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I don't feel that you have taken the thread off topic to any extent whatsoever, Sensei.
(I did not realize you were from California.)
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I hate it when the person insulting me is making me laugh...
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08-20-2011, 15:36
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Who said it was "some how not worth while"?
I got beat up by a harsh chick named Myong Mayes for years.
That was what was not worth while.
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My son's current instructor trained with her. Lots of stories of men getting thrown around harshly. 
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08-20-2011, 15:38
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My son's current instructor trained with her. Lots of stories of men getting thrown around harshly. |
Bad.
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08-20-2011, 19:56
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Here that grip is not being used in the same way. Using your hand that way as a standoff/brace for a vertical barricade or window shooting position is one thing; doing it the way shown in the suspect videos is another. They may have got it from here, but I think they misinterpreted the purpose.
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08-20-2011, 20:15
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Kind of reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmE69bZ1rtM
A lot of those "participants" looked like local LEOs to me. One guy had a shitload of USAF stripes... coulda been an E4, or something.
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08-20-2011, 20:20
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I think Gunter did that flick pro bono.
What a classic clip. Thank you.
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08-21-2011, 09:28
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I hate it when the person insulting me is making me laugh...
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I apologize for being rude, mean and unfunny, bro-you don't deserve a lack of respect.
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08-21-2011, 10:11
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I appreciate it, but I don't think anyone can accuse you of being unfunny.
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08-21-2011, 11:09
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It's okay, they're American Jedis. Although, if my eyesight isn't failing, it looks like "POS" on the side of his head. 
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08-21-2011, 14:22
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Regarding those silly videos, I was reading one of Paul Howe's articles on his website and the simplicity and clarity of his approach says it all.
" Remember, if you charge the person, their body may not be affected by your first few rounds, all the while you are moving directly to a muzzle."
( emphasis added )
I guess those ninja monkeys haven't figured that out yet.
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08-21-2011, 19:58
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It's okay, they're American Jedis. Although, if my eyesight isn't failing, it looks like "POS" on the side of his head. |
Blood type, can't see the type, but Rh factor Positive (POS).
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08-23-2011, 14:25
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It looks like they have misinterpreted things they have seen elsewhere. Also looks like they are ,unsuccessfully, trying to mix law enforcement and CQB. I read some of the comments on youtube and, the guys who made the video were defended as being instructors for ODAs. The person doing the defending said he didn't like the overhand grip but, some people love it.
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08-23-2011, 14:29
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I appreciate it, but I don't think anyone can accuse you of being unfunny.
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Then you may take the pebble from my hand.
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