05-07-2011, 11:32
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05-07-2011, 11:52
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Good on ST-6! Just a thought, but i wouldn't be suprised if the GFC had a talk with the commo dude running the uplink that as soon as X happened the uplink needed to go down to prevent too much oversight and protect the team. A little self imposed commo outage never hurts when higher keeps wanting to micro manage, right? 
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05-08-2011, 08:41
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Dammit! I stared at that in fascination for 5 minutes!
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05-08-2011, 09:15
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Dammit! I stared at that in fascination for 5 minutes!
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Probably habit.
For our younger readers, that used to be all that was on TV after 2330 hrs.
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05-08-2011, 17:55
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Probably habit.
For our younger readers, that used to be all that was on TV after 2330 hrs.
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I remember that, didn't they play the National Anthem as well? IIRC there were only 5-6 TV stations "back in the day".
Gads I am old.
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05-08-2011, 19:11
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I remember that, didn't they play the National Anthem as well? IIRC there were only 5-6 TV stations "back in the day".
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05-09-2011, 16:45
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That's pretty cool!
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05-10-2011, 07:06
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I remember that, didn't they play the National Anthem as well?
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Yes, they did.
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05-12-2011, 18:19
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Now, they say there was video. Not fishy, huh.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...nt;cbsCarousel
CBS News) WASHINGTON - A new picture emerged Thursday of what really happened the night the Navy SEALs swooped in on Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.
CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports the 40 minutes it took to kill bin Laden and scoop his archives into garbage bags were all recorded by tiny helmet cameras worn by each of the 25 SEALs.
Officials reviewing those videos are still reconstructing a more accurate version of what happened. We now know that the only firefight took place in the guest house, where one of bin Laden's couriers opened fire and was quickly gunned down. No one in the main building got off a shot or was even armed, although there were weapons nearby.
Special Report: The Killing of Osama bin Laden
The SEALs first saw bin Laden when he came out on the third floor landing. They fired, but missed. He retreated to his bedroom, and the first SEAL through the door grabbed bin Laden's daughters and pulled them aside.
When the second SEAL entered, bin Laden's wife rushed forward at him -- or perhaps was pushed by bin Laden. The SEAL shoved her aside and shot bin Laden in the chest. A third seal shot him in the head.
The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee went to CIA headquarters Thursday to view photos the SEALs took of bin Laden's body.
Lawmakers see bin Laden photos
"There were probably about maybe four, five or six photos," said Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, D-Md. "There are just a couple body shots. He was like, in a white undershirt and a tan robe."
The electronic files the SEALs carted away from bin Laden's compound contain -- among many things -- the names of terrorist operatives which until now were unknown to U.S. intelligence. The files also contain a small, 12-page journal of bin Laden's handwritten notes about launching a major attack against the United States. He instructed against using Arabs because they arouse too much suspicion, to go after trains and to time the attack to coincide with the 10th anniversary of September 11.
Bin Laden wanted to attack U.S. on 9/11 anniversary
There are also messages to his senior lieutenants and to al Qaeda affiliates, urging them not to waste time on small, local operations and focus their efforts on the United States.
Ruppersberger said, "He kept all that information and he kept all of the data, computers, hard drives and this is what we're analyzing and it shows that his focus was clearly the United States."
U.S. officials cannot understand why bin Laden apparently left what amounts to the keys to his terrorist kingdom just lying around his compound in plain sight -- none of it rigged for self destruction.The killing of Osama bin Laden
Why didn't bin Laden protect his files? The best guess is he thought the United States would never find him.
How 'bout cause we have a Prez who loves Muslims?
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05-12-2011, 18:45
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Two pictures (among others) that might be interesting:
(1) The expression on Bin Laden's face when he heard that very first bump in the night that fateful evening; and
(2) the expression on his face when he suddenly realized that those were actual US troops about to unleash hell.
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05-12-2011, 19:55
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There is so much info we just freely and openly provide about this action - I don't get it.
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Curious as to what has been so freely and openly provided about this action...?
The "interesting" stuff is quiet. Like who whacked him, who wrecked helo, who killed the other three jihadist, who shot the woman, etc. As it should be and I hope it stays that way...for a loooong time. That is need to know and I don't need to know and neither does anybody else outside that team.
Still want to see a confirmed pic though. IMHO there has not been enough provided about this action in certain aspects (as long as there are no PERSEC and OPSEC issues)
The age in which we live of you tube, liveleak and 3 hour news cycles almost demands we know more. Sensitivity of mooslims be damned.
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05-12-2011, 20:59
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How much info do I think is too much?
How many helo's were on the mission. Easily inferred, certainly wasn't just two and I bet there was even more we will not hear about for a while.
How many guys were on the misson. Also easily inferred, teams are a certain size and aircraft carry "x" amount and I would hazard a guess that there were was a QRF somewhere and that the four horsemen were slingloaded.
What units were on the mission. Yeah, kinda agree here. I think it more appropriate that our ninjas shot him in the face. I am seriously agreeing here.
Who shot who, where inside the house they shot them. Meh, Inshallah. The "who" is DevGru...there will be a book. I bet there is a video.
Now the video from the unit's involved is being reported about. Hot damn there is a video! 24-25 angry dudes with guns in a foreign country, fast roping and landing in stealth helicopters in the worlds most wanted terrorist compound....? Hell yes there better be a video with no gaps!!
I personally would be fine with "in the dark of night we shot him in the face." With our niinjas and here are the pictures.
Done.
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05-13-2011, 08:16
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How much info do I think is too much?
How many helo's were on the mission. Easily inferred, certainly wasn't just two and I bet there was even more we will not hear about for a while.
How many guys were on the misson. Also easily inferred, teams are a certain size and aircraft carry "x" amount and I would hazard a guess that there were was a QRF somewhere and that the four horsemen were slingloaded.
What units were on the mission. Yeah, kinda agree here. I think it more appropriate that our ninjas shot him in the face. I am seriously agreeing here.
Who shot who, where inside the house they shot them. Meh, Inshallah. The "who" is DevGru...there will be a book. I bet there is a video.
Now the video from the unit's involved is being reported about. Hot damn there is a video! 24-25 angry dudes with guns in a foreign country, fast roping and landing in stealth helicopters in the worlds most wanted terrorist compound....? Hell yes there better be a video with no gaps!!
I personally would be fine with "in the dark of night we shot him in the face." With our niinjas and here are the pictures.
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