04-26-2011, 15:17
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Does anyone see Donald Trump having any effect in this if he is elected?
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04-26-2011, 15:34
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Does anyone see Donald Trump having any effect in this if he is elected?
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Well, how many times has one of the companies that he owns filed for bankruptcy? Haven't there been several?
http://www.mademan.com/mm/how-many-t...ankruptcy.html
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04-26-2011, 16:11
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So when a Chinese nuke plant goes meltdown, what do they call it?
U.S. Syndrome?
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04-26-2011, 16:12
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Does anyone see Donald Trump having any effect in this if he is elected?
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Stop. You're makin my sides hurt.  
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04-26-2011, 16:19
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So when a Chinese nuke plant goes meltdown, what do they call it?
U.S. Syndrome?
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Flied lice?
TR
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04-26-2011, 16:35
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So when a Chinese nuke plant goes meltdown, what do they call it?
U.S. Syndrome?
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Nothing to see here, there is no problem, move along.
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04-26-2011, 17:17
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So when a Chinese nuke plant goes meltdown, what do they call it?
U.S. Syndrome?
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A secret.
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04-26-2011, 17:20
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So when a Chinese nuke plant goes meltdown, what do they call it?
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As happened with the Chinese Embassy in Budapest - oopppsss! 
Richard 
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04-26-2011, 23:45
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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen
China's miracle is about to end.
Inflation is catching up with them.
Bernanke has been giving their inflation a little kick as well.
China will have to de-peg, and with it their mercantilism.
We'll be fine in this country, so long as we remain a net exporter of food.
People will trade anything in order to eat.
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so this ad is largely propaganda 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYKAbRK_wKA
I won't discount the Chinese ability to emulate France's lead in nuclear power use. If Iran can use foreign contractors to start one, I do not doubt Chinese can do the same then make it 100x more efficient and cheaper. I recall my dedicated peers who earned their phd's in nuclear engineering, chemical engineering, electrical engineering, and so on at top US universities then went back to China. If those brain powers and accumulated knowledge are put to good use, we are in trouble. Of course, some of them opted to stay here when a taste of freedom overrode the excellent nationalistic/ethnic pride conditioning in the school system and culture. That conditioning is no joke. I have family members who grew up attending that school system and to them it's China über alles .
If only the MSM here did extensive coverage of the 2010 Shanghai World Expo, Americans would readily see trades, technology, and other countries (ie. BRIC)are steadily shifting to China. Other venues similar to the world expo exhibits likewise trend.
Like TR always said, be prepared.
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04-27-2011, 02:48
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Donald Trump
If Donald Trump gets elected I will run in 20 years under the "I have less hair platform, and it looks better", UN Sanctions for every one (because they always work ), and the slogan of "If sanctions don't work superior fire power will." TS or TR you want to be my running mate?
This election year should be interesting especially with China outranking us, the Middle East up in arms, and national debt.
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04-27-2011, 06:26
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Monsoon
Here is a very interesting/current book you might want to read on this subject: Monsoon: The Indian Ocean and the Future of American Power by Robert D. Kaplan. There are interviews with some QPs, living in the Far East, some of you might know.
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04-27-2011, 09:11
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For 20 years I've been watching Chinese nationals take key IT support roles in big pharma, e.g. database administration, network security analysis, etc. Total insanity. "Oh, he's the son of the deputy minister of finance, it's sort of a quid pro quo for our marketing efforts in Guangdong province." The keys to the research kingdom, on a silver platter. I have to assume that other industries have been similarly shortsighted.
Genetic engineering, aerospace, pharmaceuticals, materials science, chip technology. Process control, quality control, management structure, logistics. All handed over.
Trump is a total tool but if he opens the debate on the Sino-American war he'll have done this country a great service. I'm a capitalist at heart but that doesn't mean I'll sit still for a mugging.
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04-27-2011, 09:40
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Trump is a total tool but if he opens the debate on the Sino-American war he'll have done this country a great service. I'm a capitalist at heart but that doesn't mean I'll sit still for a mugging.
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Question: Who would you rather have as POTUS right now, Trump or Obama?
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04-27-2011, 10:55
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My wife, at least she listens to me. . . sometimes
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04-27-2011, 11:29
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Question: Who would you rather have as POTUS right now, Trump or Obama?
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That is an extremely loaded question. On the one hand you have an egotistical, self aggrandizing, lying sack of dog "scheisse" and on the other hand......
...wait a second! The other hand is identical except for color, but opposite. That must be the hand that I use to wipe with.
Though I agree with Trump's basic premises, that he stated earlier today, regarding the U.S.-China economic relationship and also the fact that many an OPEC country owes their very existence to U.S. military might, I do not feel that he is the man to pull it off. IMHO. he is just too much of a loose cannon, like what we are presently enduring, except with a different flavor.
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