No Fly Zone Approved by UN

[EX-Gold Falcon]

In my opinion, I find it disgraceful that it took so long to finally reach this decision. However I am very pleased that at least it will go through. I can only hope that it is not to late to give the rebels a fighting chance and I truly hope there will be precise targeted strikes made against moma's armor, air and navel assets ASAP.

Along these same lines, I cannot help but wonder why US military assets are even necessary? Correct me if I am wrong, do not Spain, France and Italy all possess operational carriers? Between these three combined with British and German air and navel assets, it would seem perhaps geo-politically prudent for the US to assume a limited support role throughtout the operation. If I am offbase with this, please feel free to better explain the situation so I may learn.

Bloody Excellent News!


T.

[scooter]

From an article on Foxnews.com:

'Obama said Qaddafi must implement a cease-fire, stop his troops from advancing on rebel strongholds and allow humanitarian assistance to reach Libya. "Let me be clear, these terms are not negotiable," he said in a brief appearance at the White House. "If Qaddafi does not comply with the resolution, the international community will impose consequences and the resolution will be enforced through military action."

Obama met with congressional leaders from both parties on Libya before he made his statement. Sources with knowledge of the meeting said Obama told them that no U.S. troops and no U.S. attack aircraft will be directly involved in enforcement of the no-fly zone.'

I like the message. If you don't do what I say.... I'll beg someone else to do something. Doesn't really sound very intimidating. I wonder why he is weighing in at all if he plans to let others do the lifting.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by LarryW

Agree! Zero in on the Gadhafi brothers while you're at it.

Yup, Moammar, Curleemmar and Larrymmar, et al.

[neecheepure]

Why in the world don't the A-Rabs do this themselves? It's their back yard. They bitch if we don't help, and they'll for sure bitch when we do.

[kgoerz]

This is a joke right. We had to ask for permission to help the Rebels. On top of that we give the enemy all the time in the world to prep for Air defense. I cant even wrap my head around how stupid this is.

Wolf Blitzer had a point. If this succeeds. Make the new Libyian Govt pay back the countries for the cost of the no fly zone.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by EX-Gold Falcon

In my opinion, I find it disgraceful that it took so long to finally reach this decision. However I am very pleased that at least it will go through. I can only hope that it is not to late to give the rebels a fighting chance and I truly hope there will be precise targeted strikes made against moma's armor, air and navel assets ASAP.

Along these same lines, I cannot help but wonder why US military assets are even necessary? Correct me if I am wrong, do not Spain, France and Italy all possess operational carriers? Between these three combined with British and German air and navel assets, it would seem perhaps geo-politically prudent for the US to assume a limited support role throughtout the operation. If I am offbase with this, please feel free to better explain the situation so I may learn.

Bloody Excellent News!


T.

IIRC, STOVL, jump jets and choppers only, not flat deck carriers, nothing particularly impressive. Decent ASW platforms.

You do not need to fly over, or be on the ground of a weak country to dominate their airspace. An Aegis destroyer or cruiser or two should be able to park offshore and kill anything that flies, as I understand it. A carrier would be nice for air to ground strikes, surveillance, and limited air interdiction.

TR

[EX-Gold Falcon]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

IIRC, STOVL, jump jets and choppers only, not flat deck carriers, nothing particularly impressive. Decent ASW platforms.

You do not need to fly over, or be on the ground of a weak country to dominate their airspace. An Aegis destroyer or cruiser or two should be able to park offshore and kill anything that flies, as I understand it. A carrier would be nice for air to ground strikes, surveillance, and limited air interdiction.
TR

Thank you Sir.
I truly hope that EU Nato forces will be granted the necessary ROE's to make an actually difference as opposed to a toothless peacekeeper mission.

Originally Posted by scooter

From an article on Foxnews.com:

Obama met with congressional leaders from both parties on Libya before he made his statement. Sources with knowledge of the meeting said Obama told them that no U.S. troops and no U.S. attack aircraft will be directly involved in enforcement of the no-fly zone.'

Missed this message, thanks for posting. Appears I wasn't too far offbase after all.

I like the message. If you don't do what I say.... I'll beg someone else to do something. Doesn't really sound very intimidating. I wonder why he is weighing in at all if he plans to let others do the lifting.

Well as the POTUS, he has to say something. If nothing more, EU Nato forces can utilize this as a "live fire" training exercise.


T.

[incarcerated]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03...d-city-libya/#

Plane Shot Down Over Rebel-Held City on Libya

Published March 19, 2011
Associated Press
BENGHAZI, Libya -- A plane has been shot down over the main rebel-held city in eastern Libya.
An Associated Press reporter saw the plane go down in flames outside Benghazi early Saturday after the area came under shelling.
A black cloud went up over the city's southern outskirts....

[greenberetTFS]

Wolf Blitzer had a point. If this succeeds. Make the new Libyian Govt pay back the countries for the cost of the no fly zone.?/quote/kgoerz


He also said on the evening news that it's all over for Qaddofi only he doesn't realize it!...

Big Teddy

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by incarcerated

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03...d-city-libya/#

Plane Shot Down Over Rebel-Held City on Libya

Published March 19, 2011
Associated Press
BENGHAZI, Libya -- A plane has been shot down over the main rebel-held city in eastern Libya.
An Associated Press reporter saw the plane go down in flames outside Benghazi early Saturday after the area came under shelling.
A black cloud went up over the city's southern outskirts....

FOX said it was a Ghadaffi plane.
CNN said it was a rebel plane.

I saw the video.
I can confirm it was in fact, a plane. And it did, in fact, go down.
Does this now make me a reporter?

[incarcerated]

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/...118293224.html

Allied Warplanes Patrol Libyan Skies

March 19, 2011
VOA News
French President Nicolas Sarkozy says allied warplanes are flying over Libya to enforce a no-fly zone and protect civilians in the city of Benghazi, where forces loyal to leader Moammar Gadhafi have been bearing down on rebels trying to bring down his government.

U.S. President Barack Obama confirmed a short time later that the United States has joined a coalition with its European and Arab partners to take action in Libya.

Obama spoke to reporters during his visit to Brazil. He said the allied coalition's "resolve is clear," and that all members are "prepared to act with urgency."

Sarkozy announced the military action Saturday in Paris, where representatives of the U.N., European Union, Arab and Western powers gathered for an emergency summit on the Libyan crisis.

President Sarkozy said the leaders agreed to use all necessary means - including military force - to carry out a U.N. Security Council resolution approved on Thursday. The Council declared a no-fly zone over Libya and specifically authorized world powers to use "all measures necessary" to protect civilians.

Sarkozy said world powers were intervening so the Libyan people can "choose their destiny," but he added there is still time for Gadhafi to heed the demands of the international community.

Earlier Saturday, pro-government forces in Libya advanced against rebels on two fronts. Insurgents in their eastern stronghold of Benghazi said government loyalists had been pushing forward in apparent disregard of the cease-fire Gadhafi declared on Friday. The rebels also say military units loyal to Gadhafi shot down one of their planes over the city....

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Utah Bob

FOX said it was a Ghadaffi plane.
CNN said it was a rebel plane.

I saw the video.
I can confirm it was in fact, a plane. And it did, in fact, go down.
Does this now make me a reporter?

QP Utah Bob--

That's a negative. You are not a broadcast news journalist until you provide for this story all of the following.

• Two hours of increasingly fantastic speculation accompanied by looped video of the event;
• Follow up reporting that traces the myriad connections between this story and the local community.
• Two teases for weather and for traffic.
• A tease for a following news story that discusses either sex or kittens. (But not sex with kittens because that's simply gross.)
• Numerous mentions of your blog and Facebook and Twitter accounts.
• Some sort of internet-based viewer poll on any of the above. (But not sex with kittens because that's a subject fully covered over at 4chan--or so I've heard.)

HTH

[Ambush Master]

What is the base of the insurgency?? If they are AQ and are looking to impose a Strict Islamist Theocracy, could we be "Helping" the ENEMY?!?!

I believe that in Egypt, it was a Strong Islamic Base!!!

Just a thought!

Later
Martin

[Utah Bob]

It's my impression that the opposition in both Egypt and Libya is predominantly secular.

[Geenie]

Props to the French for stepping up.