02-19-2011, 09:27
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Israel has been planning and building these settlements for quite some time, and this has been placing us in awkward situations. I am not sure who - besides Israel - supports them building in these settlements, especially since most people consider these territories in dispute. These settlements are good for one nation and one nation only - Israel. And that's fine that they put their interests before any other nation - we all do - but don't be surprised if we don't veto the vote sometimes in the near future. I don't think it is truly in our best interest to side with Israel on this particular issue.
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"America has been planning and building these settlements for quite some time, and this has been placing the King in awkward situations. I am not sure who-besides America-supports them building in these settlements, especially since most people consider these territories in dispute."
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02-19-2011, 10:12
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Apples and oranges. Israel was given a nation by the victors of WWI as some kind of divine right, which is what the first Americans fought against. 
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You'll have to do better than that to convince me.
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02-19-2011, 10:44
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I have yet to find evidence that can convince me that the continued development of those settlements is a sign that Israel is committed to a peaceful resolution to the long term conflict in their dealings with the Palestinians. I have read articles supporting the settlements, and stories that disagree with these settlements. Until such time as the nation of Israel can come to some kind of conclusion as to who has the right to settle the areas - besides their own claims - than I think they should stop building there. Basically, they're not helping their cause, or ours, IMO.
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One only needs to go back and look at who the "Palestinians" are, and what they're courses of action have been re: the settlements to clear the Jews for the what they've done.
It appears to be popular now to show disrespect for the wishes of the Israelis, but has not always been so with this Country.
Of course, the Country is for the first time being forced to accept policies and legislation that the majority clearly has no desire for, is being presided over by someone who may not even be American (nearly half the Country believes he's not), and other "firsts". Logically, disdain for Israel by the current government comes as no surprise, but that doesn't mean the situation won't bite them in the ass with any less viciousness.
You don't mess with the Zohan.
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03-12-2011, 10:43
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Horror in Samaria: Terrorist murders family of 5
Yair Altman
Latest Update: 03.12.11, 06:20 / Israel News
Horror in Samaria: A terrorist infiltrated the West Bank settlement of Itamar, southeast of Nablus, early Saturday and stabbed five family members to death.
The shocking attack occurred around 1 am as the terrorist entered the family home and murdered three children aged 11, 3, and a baby girl along with their parents. The victims were apparently sleeping as the killer came in.
Full story...
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03-12-2011, 13:22
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Apples and oranges. Israel was given a nation by the victors of WWI as some kind of divine right, which is what the first Americans fought against.
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Long before WWI, and following the hijacking of the terms “Palestine” and “Palestinian” by the PLO, and other Arabs, the terms were analogous to “Israel” and “Jew,” which is evident from simple historical facts, such as Newspaper archives pre 1914 - Articles from Hashkafa, or from Habazeleth, which published articles from Jerusalem, and are, inexhaustible sources of information on the happenings of Jewish Israel around the timeframe of which you speak…
http://www.jpress.org.il/publications/HSK-en.asp
http://www.jpress.org.il/publications/HZT-en.asp
http://www.jpress.org.il/publications/Hazvi-en.asp
http://www.jpress.org.il/publications/PPost-en.asp
Can you spare me a copy of the protocols…LOL
FWIW, this book is well worth reading, she set out on a journey with an ax to grind but found out her ideas were flawed:
http://www.amazon.com/Time-Immemoria.../dp/0963624202
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle {JIHAD} against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
~Zuhair Muhsin, March 31, 1977~
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03-12-2011, 13:29
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Apples and oranges. Israel was given a nation by the victors of WWI as some kind of divine right, which is what the first Americans fought against. 
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Please clarify. What is the " what"?
[Yes, you're walking into a trap.]
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03-12-2011, 14:55
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Yeah-shit on Israel, but don't worry about the Muslim 'Hood.
This is loco.
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Dusty,I agree with you totally.............  
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SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
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03-12-2011, 18:01
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The original deeds to all that property are inscribed in clay tablets - and none of them are in Aramaic, Arabic, Hebrew, Greek, or Latin.
Life in the ME is an ' occupation-al' hazard...and affirms the olde adage that the only thing more expensive than an education is a lack of one.
And so it goes...
Richard
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