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Old 01-29-2011, 23:17   #16
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Was he alseep?
Happened during a domestic dispute. Seriously wounded him but didn't kill him.

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Old 01-29-2011, 23:23   #17
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Happened during a domestic dispute. Winged him good but didn't kill him.
Lesson learned,

No 1. Keep gun(s) away form domestic disputes.

No. 2. Have a mediator

No. 3 If the shit is bad, go to the SGM's house, throw a poncho liner on the back porch, offer to cook breakfast or take kids to school, have coffee with said SGM's wife, talk it out.

No. 4 Don't go home. BTDT.
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:46   #18
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A very sad trajedy.

Reminds me of the time back in the day when an O-4 B Team CDR in 3/5 was shot by his wife with a .357 Magnum
mm, I remember that, it was Hank Miesner....RIP. I also believe it was Doc Melvin who was called to go assist before the law got involved...IIRC.

Back to the OP,

RIP kids, and sincere condolences to the Col and his remaining family.

I couldn't fathom what he's going through now...

RIP Sir.
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Old 01-30-2011, 16:45   #19
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My kids are mouthy too, but damn! I can only imagine what her husband is going through right now having lost everything all at once. My prayers go out to him.

On a side note, why does the media always have to point out if the firearm was purchased recently?
One word: Premeditation. You would be surprised how much weight that carries in a court of law. Kind of makes the "I'm crazy" thing seem like B.S. If I was on the jury, you would have a damn hard time convincing me that the woman did not premeditate if she went out and took the steps to buy a handgun. Period.
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Old 01-30-2011, 19:21   #20
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I read this article: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/30...pital-release/ ... yesterday. In it they pointed out:

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Before Friday's arrest, Schenecker had no criminal record in Florida. On Nov. 8, 2010, she was involved in a car crash in Tampa, according to records from the Florida Highway Patrol, and cited for careless driving.

The crash caused bodily injury and $26,500 of property damage, records show, but it does not explain who was injured or what property was damaged. Schenecker paid a $151 fine and attended traffic school, the report said.
That particular part of the article was interesting in that there was another article "connected" to it recalling a case of a man who had also been involved in a car accident and sustained a minor brain injury. Four days after his release from the hospital he murdered his family and then killed himself. (cannot recall names in order to find that article).
I have to wonder if the press isn't presenting a defense here.

This is such a tragedy and my prayers go to the family and friends who will surely miss them. It's always so sad when children lose their lives to such violence.
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:51   #21
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I've been following the story since it first broke. Truly tragic. It was reported elsewhere that the cops were pretty traumatized by the scene.
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:02   #22
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I've been following the story since it first broke. Truly tragic. It was reported elsewhere that the cops were pretty traumatized by the scene.
1st...yes, I read where they had to bring in special counsellors for the LEOs because they were just so overwhelmed. When I was a cop, the worst cases for me were always the children....its a wonder I never became an alcoholic over it. It really is hard to wrap your brain around how a mother can hurt her children. Some of the things I have seen....its a wonder I never hid a body out on the ranges at bragg! Though the sentiment was there with many of us!!
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:05   #23
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Dead teen told Tampa police in November that her mother abused her

Dead teen told Tampa police in November that her mother abused her

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1148694.ece

I'll not really comment on the story other to say - good thing social services never listened in on some of the rows when D1 was 16 & 17. Teenagers know how to push your button and I swear have SS on speed dial

"TAMPA — Julie Schenecker was suspected of abusing her teenage daughter just three months before police say she shot her children to death, according to a report released Monday......................."
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I've been following the story since it first broke. Truly tragic. It was reported elsewhere that the cops were pretty traumatized by the scene.
Read mom got the daughter in the back of the head and followed up with one in the face. That is some serious hate.
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Old 01-31-2011, 14:17   #25
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One word: Premeditation. You would be surprised how much weight that carries in a court of law. Kind of makes the "I'm crazy" thing seem like B.S. If I was on the jury, you would have a damn hard time convincing me that the woman did not premeditate if she went out and took the steps to buy a handgun. Period.
Ahhh....a light bulb went on. An excellent point I hadn't considered. Thank you.
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Old 01-31-2011, 14:30   #26
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Ahhh....a light bulb went on. An excellent point I hadn't considered. Thank you.
It was also convienant that she did the deed while her husband was deployed.
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Old 01-31-2011, 14:32   #27
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As sad as this entire situation is, it's one of those cases where we may not know the "rest of the story" until it has been completely adjudicated. However, it's possible that it won't take too long before some type of motive is uncovered.

I know that in several of the homicides that I have worked over my career, the most unanswered question of them all is the "why". There are several homicides that are solved without ever having been able to prove the exact "why". Often times, the suspect receives their sentence and does their time without ever providing their reason(s) for their actions. We will have to wait for the "rest of the story".

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Colonel sues wife over teens' violent deaths

Colonel sues wife over teens' violent deaths

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/outsi...iolent-deaths/

".....Schenecker told the St. Petersburg Times that since his divorce filing, his wife wanted $40,000 for a lawyer, $10,000 for a forensic accountant, alimony, health insurance, and her diamond engagement ring.

“I was incredulous,” he said..........."

Sad thing is she'll probably get it and a good chunk of his retirement pay - but I hope not.
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Colonel sues wife over teens' violent deaths

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/outsi...iolent-deaths/

".....Schenecker told the St. Petersburg Times that since his divorce filing, his wife wanted $40,000 for a lawyer, $10,000 for a forensic accountant, alimony, health insurance, and her diamond engagement ring.

“I was incredulous,” he said..........."

Sad thing is she'll probably get it and a good chunk of his retirement pay - but I hope not.
I would hope the common sense would prevail in this situation. Wouldn't this fall under "benefiting from the crime"?
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