11-21-2010, 20:48
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The police officer was wise not to shoot the thug threatening him with the baseball bat, even on camera. Look what happened to France last time a police officer "killed" an "innocent" muslim. I thank God that I live in a place where we have real men and women serving as police. I have no doubt that here in central Ohio, the 21 foot rule would have came into effect.
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11-21-2010, 20:52
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Originally Posted by blacksmoke
I have no doubt that here in central Ohio, the 21 foot rule would have came into effect.
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At least in NC, it definitely would have. As far as justification goes, he could have articulated that all day long without any trouble.
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11-21-2010, 21:10
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
I have heard (never been there) that there are entire areas within France and Germany and so forth where the police cannot go because you aren't even really in France or Germany anymore, you're in something else entirely, because unlike in America where our Muslims have to assimilate, their Muslims they have allowed to remain isolated and not assimilate. Hence Angela Merkel saying the experiment in multiculturalism has failed.
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There are Muslim compounds and enclaves here in the US. There are gated communities here in the area (NC) that refuse to allow police in the gates unless they want them to come in. Sort of makes you wonder what they are hiding??
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11-21-2010, 21:19
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Originally Posted by CloseDanger
Last I read, France has over 580 areas police may not tread. It is a normal tactic employed in takeover of land. French "law" has allowed Sharia to be enacted in some localities flinging open the door to that recievership of law. Same in Turkey, Germany, and most of Europe are these dark craters of non-national law. Or, alien law if you will.
Don't worry, moslems have the same in store for US. See?...
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I've been reading these thinking to myself, "Wow, that wouldn't fly 'round these parts, MPD would be there with SWAT and tear gas, and there would be crap all over the news about MPD overreacting and so on... Then:
"The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life" - from this article, a group in Little Rock - way too close to home. Wow.
I have an idea, if American life is so depraved, then freakin move back where you came from. I've become quite sick of people coming here, then complaining about OUR way of life. Go home or go somewhere else. Heck, I'll even put together a fund to collect money to put you on a plane. Sorry...
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11-21-2010, 21:35
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"Bubbas for Bobby!"
Maybe the French police came back in massive force?
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Originally Posted by Paslode
Locally there has been an influx of darker skinned folks (Indians, Paki's, Arabs, etc.) many whom work at Sprint, whom are only interested in their children learning Math and Science and whom informed the Teachers and the School they wanted far less emphasis English, American History and Social Studies....because it is not as important as Math & Science. That is not assimilation.
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Fascinating. There might well be a little known nexus between pigment and an inclination to work for Sprint. The lack of assimilation to "our culture" argument in this region possibly harkens back to the original Kansas City Chief, who reputedly grumbled to anyone in earshot at some point, " too many palefaces, there goes the neighborhood." However, a lack of assimilation argument makes more sense if these folks are keeping their kids in madrassas as opposed to pushing for more math and science, in the curriculum, for all the kids in an increasingly competitive and technologically savvy world. IMHO, while there is dignity in any job, is it a stretch to believe most parents would prefer a doctor or engineer in the family to the sum of their kids ambition being, " would you like fries with that?" It's a slippery slope, these people who emphasize math and science risk ending up with Bobby Jindal's and Nikki Haley's...
"The horror! The horror!"
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11-21-2010, 21:47
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Originally Posted by Pete
Geeeze, for a minute there I thought you were talking about Deerborn Mich.
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Dearborn, MI - Arab
Columbus, OH - Samoli
San Diego, CA - Afghan
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11-21-2010, 22:01
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Sharia law is a political movement, not a religious portent.
Sharia law subjugates traditional and all other law to itself. Ergo, it is not religion. It is subjective. It is meant to subjugate people to foreign law. This is called sedition.
You may not have two standards of law. Murder is either murder, or it is not.
This is the most serious time the US has ever faced. Clarity is very much needed, and in these days, the rules from the past are forgotten.
Shame that.
Seeing many third world countries for what they are should convince you that they have yet to learn the lessons of the ages. But who knows, many here still vote as if tomorrow is a promise instead of a work agenda.
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11-21-2010, 22:49
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Are the Muslims living in those gated communities in NC causing trouble though?
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11-21-2010, 23:12
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Originally Posted by akv
Maybe the French police came back in massive force?
Fascinating. There might well be a little known nexus between pigment and an inclination to work for Sprint. The lack of assimilation to "our culture" argument in this region possibly harkens back to the original Kansas City Chief, who reputedly grumbled to anyone in earshot at some point, " too many palefaces, there goes the neighborhood." However, a lack of assimilation argument makes more sense if these folks are keeping their kids in madrassas as opposed to pushing for more math and science, in the curriculum, for all the kids in an increasingly competitive and technologically savvy world. IMHO, while there is dignity in any job, is it a stretch to believe most parents would prefer a doctor or engineer in the family to the sum of their kids ambition being, " would you like fries with that?" It's a slippery slope, these people who emphasize math and science risk ending up with Bobby Jindal's and Nikki Haley's...
"The horror! The horror!"
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The Kansas City Chiefs per-say were Kaw (Kanza), Wyandotte, Osage and Shawnee. Because we didn't assimilate with the native culture, most of what we have to show for that is a Shawnee Mission, Shawnee Mission, Kansas, the Shawnee Mission North Indians, the City of Shawnee, Olathe (Beautiful in Shawnee), Fort Osage, The Kaw River, Wyandotte County, Haskell University, Micosay, Order of the Arrow and of course the Kansas City Chiefs and Warpaint......and a yearly day or two where we marvel at the Real Indians crafts and customs at the Shawnee Mission or Old Shawnee Town.
It is a shame we don't have more to show, because there was much to be learned from their culture.
Jindal and Haley are good people and excellent examples of immigrants that assimilated. You will get no argument from me that Math and Science are extremely important these days, but IMO so are the host countries language, history and customs if your an immigrant planning to set up shop in said country. I don't care what color they are or where they come from. If they wish to immigrate here they need to learn more than math and science.
How would you like me to walk into your home and tell you what you need to do for me........in a nutshell that is what we are dealing with. And once it starts where will it end.
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11-22-2010, 00:20
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Originally Posted by wet dog
Dearborn, MI - Arab
Columbus, OH - Samoli
San Diego, CA - Afghan
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Greely, CO also has a major Somali problem. They are starting to feel their oats and are giving the Mexican gangs something to worry about.
A good friend of mine in LE said the issue with these 3rd world primitives is akin to what we learned in HS biology: that they come into a new environment with no natural enemies to keep their populations and activities in check. As a result, these ass-raping savages run amok knowing US laws are more of an impediment for the LE folks than for them.
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11-22-2010, 01:00
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Greely, CO also has a major Somali problem. They are starting to feel their oats and are giving the Mexican gangs something to worry about.
A good friend of mine in LE said the issue with these 3rd world primitives is akin to what we learned in HS biology: that they come into a new environment with no natural enemies to keep their populations and activities in check. As a result, these ass-raping savages run amok knowing US laws are more of an impediment for the LE folks than for them.
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Allow LE the ability to take the gloves off, or the gangs can play the Pit bulls against these fellas
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11-22-2010, 05:48
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
We have Muslim enclaves here in America, but we don't have the problems with them rioting and fighting the police the way they tend to in Europe.
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11-22-2010, 07:39
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A couple of observations:
1. The Investigators never called for backup at the first sign of trouble. This scenario would have been different had they just called in officer needs assistance.
2. The Investigators appear reluctant to draw their guns opting to bluff their seriousness by merely putting their hands on their holstered guns.
3. Who parks their cars that far from the point of contact?
4. Time to get rid of the man purses!
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11-22-2010, 07:53
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Effin' gang punks. It would be interesting to know what the follow-up by the Gendarmerie was for this.
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11-22-2010, 11:13
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Originally Posted by Paslode
You will get no argument from me that Math and Science are extremely important these days, but IMO so are the host countries language, history and customs if your an immigrant planning to set up shop in said country. I don't care what color they are or where they come from. If they wish to immigrate here they need to learn more than math and science. How would you like me to walk into your home and tell you what you need to do for me........in a nutshell that is what we are dealing with. And once it starts where will it end.
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IMO with a house come the rights of private property, however isn't that different from a school? IIRC some of these madrassas in Europe, they keep their kids separate, and only teach Shariah etc, this is quite problematic, but this is very different from parents who enroll their kids in the local public school and then push for a pragmatic curriculum, English is absolutely important as is history, Are these folks proposing classes no longer be taught in English, or no more history, or are they pushing for an increased emphasis on math and science (which frankly is fatal to radical Islam.)
People don't like change. There was a time when French or Latin would have been the optimal second language to teach kids in school. In the world today if you want to give kids a leg up, while French sounds great, the optimal second language is likely Mandarin or Hindi. This isn't very traditional. Culture is learned and shared behavior and it evolves. As a nation of immigrants many of our traditions come from all different parts of the world. To me the question is are these people trying to join the community and make it better, even if the net outcome isn't what we are used too.
The notion of bringing home chinese takeout, after Xmas tree shopping in an ushanka, the day after Thanksgiving doesn't seem all that exotic, but consider how various immigrant cultures blended for this outcome.
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