‘Machete’ producers lied about racist bloodbath

[1stindoor]

If I were Rodriguez, I would tell the MSM, POTUS, and every other a$$hole, "Relax, it's just a movie. If you don't like it...don't pay to see it."

The next question is...how many people, legal and illegal alike in this country as well as citizens of every other country in South and Central America will bootleg this movie and make money off it.

I'm sick and tired of the overly sensative a$$holes making an issue out of every non-issue out there.

[1stindoor]

On another note...and speaking of movies...went to see The American. If you have the time go ahead and gouge out your eyes and throw ten dollars in the toilet. It'll feel the same...but the pain will end sooner.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

I'm sick and tired of the overly sensative a$$holes making an issue out of every non-issue out there.

You hit the nail on the head in regards to peoples sensitivities which to a large degree is the root cause of these non-issues. On the other hand there is a nagging (maybe growing) double standard that fuels that fire. For example NAAWP, WET, White Caucus, White Theology, The New White Panthers for Self Defense, etc., and it wasn't all that long ago that type of exclusivity was deemed racist and bad for the country.

If were not careful with the marginalization we'll be back to seating arrangements and segregated bathrooms.

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

On another note...and speaking of movies...went to see The American. If you have the time go ahead and gouge out your eyes and throw ten dollars in the toilet. It'll feel the same...but the pain will end sooner.

Another Men who stared at Goats I take it.

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Another Men who stared at Goats I take it.

Not really, more like some cold war era, ex pat, cia type, living abroad...get's hired to build a sniper rifle...

BEHOLD! ... I give you a mini 14 in all it's glory! Add a generous helping of gratuitous nudity complete with european female trim standards and you have successfully lost 90 minutes of your life.

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

...I'm sick and tired of the overly sensative a$$holes making an issue out of every non-issue out there.

That's funny. The other day I sat next to an old timer in a small town coffee shop, who said, "I'm offended by those who are easily offended", while referring to the news channel. I forget what was on the screen, guess it doesn't matter much.

[ZonieDiver]

I will probably see it come "Redbox" time. I love cheesy movies.

Besides, this one caused "Sheriff Joe" to get his panties in a knot, so it has to have SOME redeeming qualities!

[1stindoor]

ohh...I definitely plan on seeing Machete. It's been on my short list for awhile. Resident Evil 4 is coming out next week...that'll be seen ASAP. I'm a sucker for horror movies. Old ones, new ones, cheesy ones...doesn't matter.

[Richard]

I'm a sucker for horror movies. Old ones, new ones, cheesy ones...doesn't matter.

I just watched Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (with Lon Chaney as the Wolfman and Bella Lugosi as Dracula), Abbott and Costello Meet The Killer (with Boris Karloff), and Abbott and Costello Meet The Mummy this past weekend. Hard to beat those classics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg5N9...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMhK...eature=related



Richard

[Papa Zero Three]

I gotta ask, all of you that are bitching, have you seen this movie? I just saw it today after having read the posts here and thought it was gonna be some bleeding left wing typical Hollywood BS so I went in ready for the worst.

This movie is as tongue in cheek and as cheesy as you can get. 70's Porn music, overly fake and bloody scenes and intentional bad jump cuts from scene to scene. Do you really think a movie that has a guy swing out a glass window down from one floor above using a bad guys intestine is going to start race riots? This movie poked serious fun at ALL sides of the immigration issue. In fact, there were probably more mexican stereo types depicted than "evil gringo hill billies" in the whole movie. The movie made fun of everyone, not just mexicans and Americans but immigrants from other countries as well. I think it's safe to say we won't see any mexicans rioting in the street holding off the police or anyone else with a weed eater as was depicted in the movie.

A majority of the people in the audience were mexican and they laughed the most during the scenes that stereotyped mexicans. I think most people will see this as an intentionally absurd 70's throw back action flick typical of most B movies from back then. The movie uses the modern day issue of immigration in a highly satirical way as a vehicle to combine the old school spaghetti westerns, action, kung-fu film techniques and poke fun at everyone in what is a highly controversial issue at the moment. Even if it was the directors intent, I don't see this as being the movie thats going to cause an insurrection in the streets. I see it as poking everyone in the room in the eye and there are some funny parts in it for sure. I'd have to call this a cheesy action comedy spoof film and I think most people who see it will see it as such.

[TOMAHAWK9521]

Originally Posted by Richard

I just watched Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (with Lon Chaney as the Wolfman and Bella Lugosi as Dracula), Abbott and Costello Meet The Killer (with Boris Karloff), and Abbott and Costello Meet The Mummy this past weekend. Hard to beat those classics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg5N9...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMhK...eature=related



Richard

"Young Frankenstein" -FRAU BLUCHER!!

[Irishsquid]

Originally Posted by Papa Zero Three

A majority of the people in the audience were mexican and they laughed the most during the scenes that stereotyped mexicans.

I have not seen the movie, so I have no comment on the rest, but I will address this.

That is actually pretty typical, and is the case because they are proud of the stereotype. Just like many people Irish decent think it's cool to be an alcoholic, and many southerners intentionally conform to the "ignorant southerner," stereotype, to the extent of thinking it's bad to get an education or a decent job.

[Dozer523]

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

Add a generous helping of gratuitous nudity complete with european female trim standards and you have successfully lost 90 minutes of your life.

"gratuitous nudity . . . you have successfully lost 90 minutes of your life?"
I have never considered any time involving nudity as anything but time well spent.

[Richard]

I have never considered any time involving nudity as anything but time well spent.

Not so much those unfortunate enough to have seen you in such a state.

Richard

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by Richard

Not so much those unfortunate enough to have seen you in such a state.

Richard

And there goes another government computer screen and keyboard.

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by Irishsquid

I have not seen the movie, so I have no comment on the rest, but I will address this.

That is actually pretty typical, and is the case because they are proud of the stereotype. Just like many people Irish decent think it's cool to be an alcoholic, and many southerners intentionally conform to the "ignorant southerner," stereotype, to the extent of thinking it's bad to get an education or a decent job.

Unfortunately, I agree. I come from a family that thought that education was a waste, drinking was a personal/community challenge, bigotry was us -vs- them..

BUT, my point in starting this thread was the subliminal back-side story of the Machete..

In most of the Eastwood movies it was good guys against the bad guys. You didn't need a score card. DH was a good guy with unconventional means(.44 Magnum, The most powerful handgun in the WORLD) and equally unconventional tactics.

The bad guys were unmistakable and universally disliked, Charles 'Scorpio Killer' Davis (Andrew Robinson)

In Shaft, the Hero was a good cop turned do-gooder PI, with at big heart. The plots were very similar to DH. The difference was the local and to a large extent, race.

Then you get the rest of the story,,, The Blaxploitation movies, with few exceptions, the bad guys were portrayed as good guys and the good guys were the best/worst stereotyped bad guys.

Tarantino has made his mark with blood & gore. The kill-Bill series was fantastic blend of trash & gore, little story, great cinematography.

In Pulp Fiction, ALL THE BAD GUYS WERE BAD,, the only difference was some of them had a soft side. The lead actors, John Travolta (Vincent Vega) and Samuel L. Jackson (Jules Winnfield), were a couple of lovable slobs, just trying to get by in a business they didn't like, but because of peer and social pressure, they strived to be better than their counterparts, they were very successful.

Skip forward,, MACHETE...

In Machete we have Senator McLaughlin (De Nero) shooting a preggy with her anchor baby. The 2010 version of the "classic" Nigger Boss, where Jed (William Smith) had a similar "role"..

My point,, With todays MSM and World Wide Exposure, to many people that don't see the creative humor or cinematic artfulness of these films, will look up to the heroes and unfortunately, try their damnedest to emulate them on the street.



PS: The 2008 DVD re-release of the 1975 classic Boss Niger dropped the "N" word, on the LABEL ONLY, for the benefit of the PC crowd,, but they still want the vision of Us -vs- Them to shine thru...