05-12-2010, 15:00
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I can see one benefit to this medal......it tells you whom to avoid.
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05-13-2010, 09:04
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If, God forbid it's ever approved,I can't imagine anyone worth his MREs would ever wear one.
Perhaps they could just award a "P" device for the campaign medal.
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05-13-2010, 12:00
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Think ?
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Originally Posted by Utah Bob
If, God forbid it's ever approved,I can't imagine anyone worth his MREs would ever wear one.
Perhaps they could just award a "P" device for the campaign medal. 
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What about seeing a clown with this ribbon and a CIB? The only ribbon that I can picture with the idiotic award is the PH if the dumb SOB is still alive. Now, we already have a combat restraint award/MOS. Corpsmen and medics practice combat restraint to first treat wounded under fire. They qualify for the CMB. Some SF medics made the best recon 10's and many other combat jobs, too.
This entire combat restraint idea sounds like the ACLU/CAIR/ and every hate America organization 's idea.
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05-13-2010, 12:35
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Originally Posted by alright4u
What about seeing a clown with this ribbon and a CIB? .
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You don't have to shoot to get a CIB, just get shot at.
So stay in your holes boys, don't fire a round and get 2 ....count 'em TWO awards for the price of one.
Now, do you only get one of these awards per conflict or per firefight? Hmmm...
Shall the ribbon be pink or yellow?
"Hey Ell Tee, I shot that one dude but not they other one. Do I get a medal now?"
"I saw my squad leader about to shoot a haji so I shot him. Do I get a Restraint Medal by proxy?"
So many questions.....
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05-13-2010, 12:36
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Originally Posted by BlackHills
I can see one benefit to this medal......it tells you whom to avoid.
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They should tattoo it on your forehead.
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05-13-2010, 12:39
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Originally Posted by Utah Bob
If, God forbid it's ever approved,I can't imagine anyone worth his MREs would ever wear one.
Perhaps they could just award a "P" device for the campaign medal. 
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Maybe the awards ceremony will look something like this...
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05-13-2010, 12:53
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Maybe the awards ceremony will look something like this...
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Ahh yes, the revised version of the revised ASU.
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05-13-2010, 15:19
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Great Point.
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Originally Posted by Utah Bob
They should tattoo it on your forehead.
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The combat restraint medal should be a long yellow line, like a streak down one's back, and; add a yellow circle on the front for -Yellow Belly, too. This should be a "highly visible award."
I guess the CIB changed. You had to be shot at and return fire in my unit. No, we did not have any 30-90 days in a combat MOS in war to get a CIB. It had to be written up with a witness.
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05-14-2010, 06:57
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McChrystal Quashes ‘Restraint’ Medal Rumor
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05-14-2010, 07:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alright4u
The combat restraint medal should be a long yellow line, like a streak down one's back, and; add a yellow circle on the front for -Yellow Belly, too. This should be a "highly visible award."
I guess the CIB changed. You had to be shot at and return fire in my unit. No, we did not have any 30-90 days in a combat MOS in war to get a CIB. It had to be written up with a witness.
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Yup.
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(5) On or after 18 September 2001:
(a) A Soldier must be an Army Infantry or special forces officer (SSI 11 or 18) in the grade of Colonel or below, or an Army Enlisted Soldier or Warrant Officer with an Infantry or Special Forces MOS, who has satisfactorily performed duty while assigned or attached as a member of an infantry, ranger or special forces unit of brigade, regimental or smaller size during any period such unit was engaged in active ground combat, to close with and destroy the enemy with direct fires.
(b) A Soldier must be personally present and under fire while serving in an assigned Infantry or Special Forces primary duty, in a unit engaged in active ground combat to close with and destroy the enemy with direct fires. Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDS), Vehicle-Borne IEDS (VBIEDS) and the like are direct fire weapons. While no fixed, qualifying distance from an explosion of these devices can be established, commanders should consider the entirety of the combat situation when considering award of the CIB.
(c) Soldiers possessing MOS of 18D (Special Forces Medical Sergeant) who satisfactorily perform Special Forces duties while assigned or attached to a Special Forces unit of brigade, regimental, or smaller size during any period such unit is engaged in active ground combat may be awarded the CIB. These Soldiers must have been personally present and engaged in active ground combat, to close with and destroy the enemy with direct fires. Retroactive awards under these criteria are not authorized for service prior to 18 September 2001.
(d) Those Soldiers possessing MOS of 18D who qualify for award of the Combat Medical Badge (CMB) from 18 September 2001 to the 3 June 2005, will remain qualified for the badge. Upon request any such soldier may be awarded the CIB instead of the CMB. In such instances, the Soldier must submit a request through the chain of command to the CG, U.S. Army Human Resources Command, ATTN: AHRC-PDO-PA, 200 Stovall Street, Alexandria, VA 22332-0471 for conversion of the CMB to the CIB.
(e) Service members from the other U.S. Armed Forces and foreign military (Infantry and Special Forces equivalents) assigned or attached as a member of a U.S. Army Infantry or Special Forces unit of brigade, regimental, or smaller size may be considered for award of the CIB.
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05-18-2010, 15:34
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But Islam is a Religion of Peace! Islam considers Mercy to be an admirable quality! Why would we want to hurt these peaceful, merciful pricks who want to introduce us to the wonders of Islam then kill us?
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