Car bomb in NYC

[Don]

Originally Posted by SkiBumCFO

Green light - you are absolutely correct it. Some real idiots set this thing up. Which I am happy about as my pregnant daughter lives about two blocks from the site. Though I must admit i am a Charlie that still uses the saying "P=Plenty" but only as a joke. I still remember us all using it as a joke in those lovely old classrooms on smoke bomb hill.

What??? P=Plenty was a joke? No wonder my Team Daddy got all pissed off when I said I needed a crate of C-4 to blow that one train rail. Oh well...back to my one-time pads and tri-graph. Dit-Dah.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by 6.8SPC_DUMP

Video of the “white male in his 40's who sent thousands into a panic": Link.

Has anyone seen footage of the van being parked and exited? ......

Why am I disapointed when I watch the news. Talk - Talk - Talk - Talk - and a short portion of a larger clip.

Where is the SUV in relation to the cam? Is it the one in the field of view? If it's not - where is the pointer "SUV over this way"? Where did the man come from? There is a lot of street in the picture. Why does the clip start only a few steps from where he stops?

Sigh...............

[Green Light]

Originally Posted by Don

What??? P=Plenty was a joke? No wonder my Team Daddy got all pissed off when I said I needed a crate of C-4 to blow that one train rail. Oh well...back to my one-time pads and tri-graph. Dit-Dah.

Hey! Blow the rail, crater the rail bed, and send the train into the next dorf!

ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's see . . . P + L = Z
(You can tell an ex-commo man - he can't remember the antenna formulas but he can't forget the trigraph)

[Harpy]

Maybe now discussions of "good Taliban" and "bad Taliban" will end! If they find this guy ASAP, maybe they can pick up some info about Mehsud.

[Paslode]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...uare-car-bomb/

FOXNews.com

- May 03, 2010
American Who Recently Visited Pakistan Eyed in Times Square Bomb Plot

The person is a naturalized American citizen who was in Pakistan for several months and returned to the United States recently, investigative sources told Fox News

Federal authorities have identified a person of interest in Saturday night's Times Square bomb attempt -- a naturalized American citizen who was in Pakistan for several months and returned to the United States recently, investigative sources told Fox News.

The latest developments seem to support investigators' suspicions that there was a foreign connection behind the failed car bomb attempt in New York City, senior Obama administration officials told Fox News, shedding light on the growing body of evidence.

Sources say that evidence includes international phone calls made by the person of interest, who has not been identified publicly. The Associated Press identified the person as a man of Pakistani descent, citing unnamed law enforcement sources.

Police also have interviewed the registered owner of the bomb-laden sports-utility vehicle. They say he is not a suspect, but he recently sold the dark-colored 1993 Nissan Pathfinder on Craigslist to another individual, whom the Associated Press reports was the Pakistani-American.

The bomb scare forced the evacuation of Times Square on a busy Saturday night, as police used a robot to break into the smoking SUV and diffuse the makeshift explosive, which was made from everyday items, such as propane tanks and firecrackers.

One Obama administration official, while acknowledging the crudeness of the bomb, cautioned, "Do not necessarily assume that the plot behind it was not sophisticated."

The SUV's vehicle identification number had been removed from Pathfinder's dashboard, but it was stamped on the engine and axle, and investigators used it to find the owner of record. CBS News reports that owner told investigators he recently sold the vehicle for $1,300 to someone who looked "Middle Eastern" or "Hispanic." The buyer reportedly paid in $100 bills.

Sources told Fox News that investigators are focusing on the similarities between the failed attack in New York City and both the 2007 attack on Glasgow's airport in Scotland and the attempted bombing of a London nightclub the same year. Propane gas and gasoline were used in all three incidents.

In New York, police and FBI were examining hundreds of hours of video from around the area and wanted to speak with a man in his 40s who was videotaped shedding his shirt near the Pathfinder.

The video shows the man slipping down Shubert Alley and taking off his shirt, revealing another underneath. In the same clip, looks back in the direction of the smoking vehicle and puts the first shirt in a bag.

They traveled to Pennsylvania for video shot by a tourist of a different person, and were evaluating the tape and determining whether to make it public.

On Monday, the White House for the first time clearly defined the attempted attack as an act of terrorism, without saying whether it was the work of a foreign or domestic plot.

"I think anybody that has the type of material that they had in a car in Times Square, I would say that that was intended to terrorize. Absolutely," White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said when asked by Fox News how the White House would categorize the incident. "And I would say that whoever did that would be categorized as a terrorist. Yes."

Obama administration officials previously stopped short of declaring the incident terrorism.

New York Gov. David Paterson immediately called the attempted attack an "act of terrorism" after police were alerted to the bomb and cleared out Times Square Saturday night. But Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday said it was too early to officially designate the incident as terrorism.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, in several interviews since Sunday, has by turns described the incident as a potential or likely terrorist act, though she said investigators need to find out more about the origin of the plot.

"It certainly is something that I would not rule out," she told Fox News on Monday morning.

A Pakistani Taliban group released a videotape that appeared to claim responsibility for the incident, but New York City officials said they had no evidence to support that.

Fox News' Major Garrett, Catherine Herridge and Mike Levine and the Associated Press contributed to this report.

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by SkiBumCFO

Green light - you are absolutely correct it. Some real idiots set this thing up. Which I am happy about as my pregnant daughter lives about two blocks from the site. Though I must admit i am a Charlie that still uses the saying "P=Plenty" but only as a joke. I still remember us all using it as a joke in those lovely old classrooms on smoke bomb hill.

Ahh...Sweet memories of the time my team ran a demo class at Devens. After a well crafted class on steel cutting charges everyone drew their materials. As I watched the men staggering downrange loaded down with C4, tnt, etc, toward the APC, train tracks, junked Pontiac and defused AF bombs, I said to myself, "This will be interesting"
I was right. And not in a good way.

[ArmyStrong]

Source:http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/04/new...r.bomb/?hpt=T1

New York (CNN) -- An arrest has been made in a failed attempt to set off a car bomb in New York's Times Square over the weekend, a law enforcement official told CNN early Tuesday.

The identity of the suspect was not immediately known.
The arrest took place at JFK Airport in New York, while the suspect was trying to board a plane to go overseas. It's destination was not immediately known, a federal law enforcement official said.
Monday evening, another law enforcement official said the buyer of a sport-utility vehicle used in the bomb attempt is considered a potential suspect in the case.
The buyer of the Nissan Pathfinder is a naturalized U.S. citizen from Pakistan, and investigators are looking at more than one person in connection with the unsuccessful bombing, the source said.
The report came as CNN learned that the Joint Terrorism Task Force investigating the bombing attempt is considering the possibility that the attempt involved more than just a "lone wolf." The identity of the person under scrutiny was not known, however.

[incarcerated]

Originally Posted by 6.8SPC_DUMP

Video of the “white male in his 40's who sent thousands into a panic": Link.

Oh yeah…I saw that guy somewhere else…where was it…?

http://www.daylife.com/photo/00rD0hn...=kevin+daveron

http://www.daylife.com/photo/03LL95l...=kevin+daveron

http://gulfnews.com/gntv/news/the-mu...bhouh-1.583880

[incarcerated]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

....The suspect, Faisal Shahzad, a 30-year-old U.S. citizen from Pakistan, allegedly purchased the sport utility vehicle that authorities found packed with explosives in New York on Saturday night.

Authorities became aware of his identity Monday afternoon. He was arrested just after 11 p.m. by Customs and Border Protection agents at JFK International Airport. Shahzad's flight to Dubai had left the gate and was headed toward the runway when authorities discovered that he was on board and wanted. He was removed from the plane and taken into custody, an official said....

[kgoerz]

Originally Posted by Pete

Why am I disapointed when I watch the news. Talk - Talk - Talk - Talk - and a short portion of a larger clip.

Where is the SUV in relation to the cam? Is it the one in the field of view? If it's not - where is the pointer "SUV over this way"? Where did the man come from? There is a lot of street in the picture. Why does the clip start only a few steps from where he stops?

Sigh...............

You might get two minutes of News in a thirty minute segment. Did I hear Bloomberg say. The bomber was probably someone angry over the Health Care Bill.

[LarryW]

Should have allowed the plane to take off then divert it to Guantanamo.

[Streck-Fu]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

You might get two minutes of News in a thirty minute segment. Did I hear Bloomberg say. The bomber was probably someone angry over the Health Care Bill.

I saw that when browsing the news online. I wanted to be surprised by his statement but couldn't muster it....LINK

[Utah Bob]

Right after getting his citizenship, he returned to Pak for 8 months.
I just heard that they have arrested someone in Karachi in connection with the case.
Joe Lieberman said yesterday he disagreed with Holder's assessment that it wasn't an external terrorist threat.

[Richard]

A couple of thoughts:

A comment for Leno to use - Hey, this guy who left the smoking SUV in Times Square, Faisal Shahzad, has only been a citizen for a year and now can't even make a decent IED. If that's what happens to anyone exposed to the American education system, we've been going about this terrorist thing all wrong by trying to keep 'em out...I say let's make 'em all citizens and put them in school.

Something to ponder for the Tom Clancy fans -

• Guy* comes to the USA but has to leave his family back in whoosis-stan.
• Works hard, becomes a citizen, and wants to bring his family over - but the 'boys' back home won't let him and keep them hostage.
• Guy is told to do the bomb thing or his family goes the way of a Washington Irving Halloween tale.
• What to do?
• Guy doesn't want to hurt anybody but knows he has to do the bomb thing or his family's fertilizer for the poppy fields.
• Guy makes a bomb which intentionally fizzles, leaves beaucoup evidence and plays for the security cameras he knows are there, and leaves a trail even the DHS can follow so that he's caught and placed in a safe prison, his family remains safe because he 'attempted' the bomb thing and they can't be responsible for him being a dumba$$, and he's willing to tell us everything he knows about the 'boys' who held his family which leads to other ops.

Far fetched...maybe...but not for a Clancy novel.

Or...maybe he's just another of the many nuts running around and looking for a reason to extoll their sponsor's magnaminoous nature by randomly killing anyone who happens by...

Anyway...and so it goes...

Richard's jaded $.02

* Not to be confused with a certain QP who frequents this forum.

[LarryW]

Something to ponder for the Tom Clancy fans -

Interesting point, Richard. Now make him an Israeli-Arab.