Fort Bragg battalion commander relieved of duty in Afghanistan

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by 69harley

Told to me by my neighbor, a BDE CSM in the 82nd. My neighbor said it this is what was briefed to him directly from the 82nd CG.

Over the course of several months, the last slide during the daily BUB was supposed to be funny, but contained some racists and sexists comments. Noting extreme, but inappropriate for a Bn BUB.

A senior NCO in the S3 approached the Bn CSM about the BUB slides being inappropriate. The Bn CSM dismissed the idea of the slides being inappropriate.

The senior NCO from the S3 then sent the slides to either the division CSM or CG, I forget which. The Bn CO and CSM were then relieved.

Some guys just don't recognize the realities of the 21st century.

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

Let's all wait until we see what happened.

Originally Posted by Winston Churchill

History is written by the victors.

Originally Posted by from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

Originally Posted by Billy Joel

And so it goes

[Thurman]

Originally Posted by TF Kilo

My sources indicate a reply to ALL instead of a reply to sender with an email containing racial slurs with regard to some subordinate that was being ordered to his office for whatever...


and so it goes.

I wonder how many careers (civilian or military) have been ruined by the blasted accidental hit of the "reply all" button?

I'm still shocked how many seemingly educated professionals in my field still don't "get" that

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Winston Churchill
History is written by the victors.

Churchill certainly proved that point with his six volume memoir/history of the Second World War.

[brown77]

Originally Posted by Thurman

I wonder how many careers (civilian or military) have been ruined by the blasted accidental hit of the "reply all" button?

If used wisely, the "reply all" button can actually help improve your career.

[LongWire]

This is surprising.....Puckett holds a great amount of respect from the Ranger Community......He put me through RIP.

Looks like it was another SGM that grew up in Regt......Sad, Just Sad.............

My guess is that one of the politicians who visited his unit got his panties twisted by a comment from the BNCO. This smells of political pressure put on the General who relieved him. Why else is the General refusing to give out the story? The LTC in question is currently at Bragg looking for a lawyer.

[Pete]

"Racial image led to removal of commanders"

Thats the headline in the Fayetteville Observer. The whole article needs to be read.


http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2010/01/30/972239


".....Puckett's friend said the poster looks bad but that it wasn't selected by Jenio or Puckett.

He said the offensive slide was inserted into the projector by a black soldier under their command and that Puckett never saw it before the presentation.

Jenio had directed his team to insert humorous slides at the end of command briefings, and slides such as the one in question - known as "demotivational posters" - were common............"

I wonder if the statement by a friend above is true?

[Animal8526]

It boggles the mind. The Army's job is warfighting, not politics.

And yet, the Army manages to deprive soldiers of two respected leaders... By all accounts, men who are exemplary warfighters... Because they failed to play politics well enough.

Is the Army as a whole really best served by depriving men of good commanders for these types of reasons?

Originally Posted by Animal8526

It boggles the mind. The Army's job is warfighting, not politics.

And yet, the Army manages to deprive soldiers of two respected leaders... By all accounts, men who are exemplary warfighters... Because they failed to play politics well enough.

Is the Army as a whole really best served by depriving men of good commanders for these types of reasons?

Leadership making removal decisions should be limited to those who have been fired at by the enemy withing the last 365 days. Then, perhaps, I would have some respect for their authority.

Although I've often regretted that I did not serve, I've always had "authority issues." Ah then, that's what basic training is for, isn't it.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Billy Joel
And so it goes

Billy Joel wrote the song of that title in 1983 and recorded it in 1990 - the original quote is used as the refrain of Billy, the time tripper, in Kurt Vonnegut's 'Slaughterhouse Five or The Children's Crusade: A Duty-dance With Death' published in 1969.

You may have heard of it...it is the reason I often use the phrase.

As for the demotivational poster incident and the reactions by the CofC - I would like to think there would be more to it than just that one incidence.

Richard

Originally Posted by Richard

Billy Joel wrote the song of that title in 1983 and recorded it in 1990 - the original quote is used as the refrain of Billy, the time tripper, in Kurt Vonnegut's 'Slaughterhouse Five or The Children's Crusade: A Duty-dance With Death' published in 1969.

You may have heard of it...it is the reason I often so use the phrase.

Richard

Mentioning Billy Joel over Kurt Vonnegut was my lame attempt at humor. My sense of humor is not very well calibrated.

[LongWire]

I can tell you that the SGM is devastated by this. From all points that I have heard, he had a very profound and positive impact on the unit from day 1. I haven't seen him in 19 yrs, but I can certainly tell you that he was the epitome of a Warrior. Very unfortunate............

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by HowardCohodas

Leadership making removal decisions should be limited to those who have been fired at by the enemy withing the last 365 days. Then, perhaps, I would have some respect for their authority.

Based upon this criterion, the reputations of men like George C. Marshall, Chester Nimitz, Ernest J. King, Dwight David Eisenhower, and others, would be in for some significant revision.

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Based upon this criterion, the reputations of men like George C. Marshall, Chester Nimitz, Ernest J. King, Dwight David Eisenhower, and others, would be in for some significant revision.

I am unfamiliar with these men having made removal decisions for other than insubordination or leadership failure. Enlighten me.